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htismaqe 10-17-2012 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024081)
Occassionally, owners intervene but never GMs. It doesn't work that way. This is the stupidest Pioli theory there is. If he did this, he would be fired immediately and he would never work as GM again.
LMAO

Micjones 10-17-2012 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9024071)
Russell Wilson beats the Packers and Patriots in his first 6 games....Cassel's best win is over a 7-9 Seahawks team...LMAO
Two .500 football teams.
:rolleyes:

Micjones 10-17-2012 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9024094)
No one ever said there was umpteen billion chances to go get a QB. If there was, everyone would have one.

You only get a few...we whiffed on acquiring any competition whatsoever, didn't even bring in a capable backup....Scott is ultra ****ing fail.
Actually people do overstate the number of alternatives to Cassel he's had.
That colors people's perception of him.

I'm not apologizing for Pioli here, but I do think we should have some perspective.

htismaqe 10-17-2012 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024090)
The fact that it was a taped interview in his office says alot. If Clark made him do it, it would have been at a press conference.

He is in complete control imo.
If that's the case, then he's in full CYA mode.

You think his job is safe. But you think he decided, without input from Clark, to do all these interviews?

Think about that for a minute.

wazu 10-17-2012 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9024024)
Weeden: 68.1
Cassel: 66.2
And Weeden had a disasterous debut with 4 picks. Since then he's thrown 7 TDs to 6 INTs, and averaged 280 yards per game. Most of those games were competitive, too, and he is throwing to crap WRs I've never heard of.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9024103)
Actually people do overstate the number of alternatives to Cassel he's had.
That colors people's perception of him.

I'm not apologizing for Pioli here, but I do think we should have some perspective.
Pioli is acting like there was NOTHING better out there. He's dead wrong. There have been plenty of posts about the number of alternatives. Even if you eliminate certain ones.....we still had a shot at Andy Dalton and Josh Freeman. Both have done more (even if they lack consistency) than Cassel has ever done.

BigCatDaddy 10-17-2012 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9024114)
Pioli is acting like there was NOTHING better out there. He's dead wrong. There have been plenty of posts about the number of alternatives. Even if you eliminate certain ones.....we still had a shot at Andy Dalton and Josh Freeman. Both have done more (even if they lack consistency) than Cassel has ever done.
Or do what other teams do. Trade up and get someone?

Brock 10-17-2012 10:25 AM
I'm amazed how other teams can seemingly find an endless supply of QBs to develop, use, trade for draft picks, etc. Meanwhile, Chiefs fans make excuses for why Pioli can't even come up with one decent backup.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9024110)
And Weeden had a disasterous debut with 4 picks. Since then he's thrown 7 TDs to 6 INTs, and averaged 280 yards per game. Most of those games were competitive, too, and he is throwing to crap WRs I've never heard of.
Weeden has been throwing to Josh Gordon and Greg Little.

Woodchuck 10-17-2012 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9024114)
Pioli is acting like there was NOTHING better out there. He's dead wrong. There have been plenty of posts about the number of alternatives. Even if you eliminate certain ones.....we still had a shot at Andy Dalton and Josh Freeman. Both have done more (even if they lack consistency) than Cassel has ever done.
We weren't taking Freeman at #3. In 2009, No one would have and no one did.

We weren't taking Dalton. Cassel had just made the pro bowl and we won the west.

I can't ever blame Pioli for KC not having a QB better than Cassel. I would have liked to have gotten Jason Campbell but he obviously didn't want to come. Same for Manning.

Bewbies 10-17-2012 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024123)
We weren't taking Freeman at #3. In 2009, No one would have and no one did.

We weren't taking Dalton. Cassel had just made the pro bowl and we won the west.

I can't ever blame Pioli for KC not having a QB better than Cassel. I would have liked to have gotten Jason Campbell but he obviously didn't want to come. Same for Manning.
Making a trade is impossible. Especially during the draft. Nobody does that!

The Franchise 10-17-2012 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024123)
We weren't taking Freeman at #3. In 2009, No one would have and no one did.

We weren't taking Dalton. Cassel had just made the pro bowl and we won the west.

I can't ever blame Pioli for KC not having a QB better than Cassel. I would have liked to have gotten Jason Campbell but he obviously didn't want to come. Same for Manning.
Kill yourself.

We took a 3-4 DE that sucks at his job at #3. We could have damn sure taken a QB there.

Woodchuck 10-17-2012 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9024128)
Making a trade is impossible. Especially during the draft. Nobody does that!
He tried hard to trade back in 2009. It was well documented. We did trade back in 2011. Where are you coming from?

Woodchuck 10-17-2012 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9024130)
Kill yourself.

We took a 3-4 DE that sucks at his job at #3. We could have damn sure taken a QB there.
What about the other teams picking in the top 10 in 2009? Did any of them need QBs? You really have no argument.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024134)
He tried hard to trade back in 2009. It was well documented. We did trade back in 2011. Where are you coming from?
Link or I call bullshit.


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