Because even his biggest critics on CP said we won't know what we have in Poe in year 1.

Nobody has said Jeff Allen has tremendous upside, nor are they now. Nobody said that about Tyson Jackson -- everyone knew his ceiling was a Ty Warren guy who maintained his gaps but would never be a pass rusher. And nobody has talked about Bailey beyond being an interesting project.

Nobody is giving Poe a free pass. He exceeded expectations and continues to improve. Nobody is saying he's awesome or is a lock to be awesome. We're saying he's on the right track.

It's nice that Poe didn't completely suck. He was not the worst lineman in the league ala Tyson Jackson 2009.

To say he has game changing potential based on what he did in 2012 is completely false.

He could be a game changer because he has a rare talent. It is unusual for a guy his size to be able to play all across the line of scrimmage. Or to have that mix between speed and size and strength, as well as endurance. Everything that was wrong with him looks like technique. Fixable stuff.

He was better than Edwards. Poe was on most snaps Ron Edwards, but there were also plenty of snaps where he flashed his upside. He is much further along than we expected. More importantly, Edwards walked in ready to play the Nose. The Nose isn't just about physical ability, it's also a really challenging mental position. He deserves time. No reason to overhype him, but he's much further along than anyone expected. On CP, many were wondering if he should ride the pine until he learns the basics.

Ron Edwards once had 3 sacks in a season for this team.

He was never as bad as Poe was last year for us.

Shit, Ron Edwards 2010 season was pretty good. He was a valuable contributor on that defense.

You people are vastly overrating Poe. He enters his sophmore season with one goal: prove he isn't one of the worst 10 starting DTs in the game, because that's what he was last year.

http://i.imgur.com/eklSO.jpg

Interesting only 11 players on the top 30 of this list found themselves on playoff teams.

I really don't care how a veteran stacks up against a rookie we all knew had a steep learning curve ahead of him. Nor do I really care about how PFF stacks up a list of mostly 4-3 DTs to a 3-4 NT, all of which ranked very low according to your chart.

Nobody is overrating him. Nobody is saying he's going to be a beast... guaranteed. But there is plenty of reason to believe the upside is tremendous.

The only reason is his draft position.

As a rookie, he was very underwhelming. This is not up for debate. It is fact.

Perspective: Jerrell Powe had a better PFF grade than Dontari Poe last season.

Poe is dogshit until proven otherwise. **** "potential" talk.

I was wrong.

Albert was injured, Allen sucked, Hudson was injured, Asamoah was average and Winston was not much of an upgrade. Baldwin was a major disappointment, Breaston invisible, Boss was injured and Moeaki had the weakest return of the ACL Club.

Lewis was crap, Routt was crap, Silar was crap and of course, Dorsey and Jackson were non-factors. Bailey regressed, Pituatoa and Smith were underwhelming, as was Jalil Brown and Abe Elam.

If not for Jamaal Charles, this team would have been 0-16.

I'd regress, too, if Crennel was my head coach and Cassel/Quinn were the quarterbacks.

No. Tyson Jackson's was over-drafted because all of us knew, he had the upside of a guy who could handle the position, but never had the speed or raw strength to be a premiere 5-technique. Poe was drafted high because of his potential. He has elite speed and power and speed and endurance, and that wasn't just in the combine, that was seen on the field but didn't translate because of awful technique. Poe's upside is based on the very, very rare ability for a nose tackle to play across the line.

You can't say he was underwhelming based on fact just because PFF has a number out there. PFF doesn't consider the quality of snaps. I don't think they weight the difference between 3-4 NTs and 4-3 DTs, and they certainly don't account for scheme. Most importantly, they don't account for where Poe is expected to be in his development. What we all said in the beginning of the year, both critics of the picks and people who liked it, was that Poe was going to be a project and we'd be happy if he just saw the field. He did. He was generally not a liability and he flashed plays. That is better than what we expected from him.

LMAO

That's exactly what they consider, dumbass. They grade every snap.

Poe needs to show something next year before anyone says he has the potential to be a game changer. I don't give a **** about combine numbers, because Jon Baldwin had nice combine numbers, too.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...hiefs-week-11/
So much for your statistics, when the source providing you with your statistics is telling you not to read too much into them.

You seem to miss the main point.

Sounds like a guy with game-changing potential!

FYI, Dontari Poe graded below -1.0 in 3 of his 4 games to end the season. So much for consistency, eh?