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Mav 07-27-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9838286)
Who gives a **** about what was said months ago.

I'm talking about now.

Who has said this season is a failure already? Recently. Not when shocked the team did the same thing as four years ago.
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oh my bad. I didn't realize it was relevant if it only happened today.....

You asked a question dude......

SAUTO 07-27-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9838281)
I really doubt that. I have been doing the forum thing for a long time now. I treat people with respect until they show me they no longer deserve it. I like things civil.. but no, I can throw dirt as well, if people can't be respectful.

Much like Mav stated, I was pretty shocked that people were so nasty and miserable here. Whenever a fan from another team came over to talk up a player that was traded to SF? All the SF fans and I had very cool discussions with them. That was certainly not the case here... but oooooh well.

did you trade for another teams backup qb repeatedly and everytime in the past it had failed? Did every time fans of the other team come around and tell you how great a deal out was and how great that player was going to be? Did those fans tell you how you should feel about it?

Seriously go back to your board and leave us to wallow in negativity. We well be ok without you here to keep out heads up
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OnTheWarpath15 07-27-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9838293)
That's a holdover of the Carl Peterson mentality. It's not safe to draft a QB high, but it is safe to pick one up in the mid to late rounds, or even better as a UDFA because if he fails, well, you didn't lose anything but cash.

You only draft "safe" positions early. Like tackles. Insert gleeful draft gif here.

http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-conte...HIEFS-FANS.gif

SAUTO 07-27-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9838298)
oh my bad. I didn't realize it was relevant if it only happened today.....

You asked a question dude......

I didn't say today.

And we are talking about the present not months ago.

Hell I asked Mac first and he wasn't even here around that time. some were shocked when the trade went down and said crazy shit. I'm not seeing many at all saying this season is a failure already. Link me to them
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Messier 07-27-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9838278)
I think most of us (including the ones who aren't big fans of Alex Smith) would be extremely surprised by that.

I've interpreted (perhaps wrongly so?) a few people as saying the fact that he wasn't given an extension is a sign that they're having a wait and see approach with him, and I just don't believe that's the case. He's their guy moving forward, I don't think there's any question about that.

I think he's their guy, if he produces. The people saying, MC trade=AS trade, must feel that Smith will be "the guy" no matter what he does. I don't feel that way at all. I believe, if after a few mediocre years the Chief are treading water, they'll move on from Smith.

OnTheWarpath15 07-27-2013 01:30 PM

I can't imagine why all of Alex Smith's coaches have been "run first" guys...

Mav 07-27-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9838288)
People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?

LMAO

Do you understand the term Developmental? Guess what, Tony Romo was undrafted as well. Matt Flynn was a 7th rounder, hes a starter today. Kurt Warner was undrafted, and developed. Is it the most logical, and successful way to build your franchise? No, but there is also overreaching, and ending up with Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell, Tim Couch, Brandon Weeden, Kevin Kolb, Trent Edwards, Matt Leinart, Vince Young.

There is a reason they wanted Tyler Bray. Bray, was not undrafted because of skill set. He was undrafted because of character concerns, and body of work. The skill set, is all there.

I don't personally care what you accept. You stated that you would of been okay with a stop gap, and a developmental qb. I gave you both. The stop gap, Alex Smith, and the developmental in Tyler bray. And now that's not good enough. You figure it out.

Chief Roundup 07-27-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9838286)
Who gives a **** about what was said months ago.

I'm talking about now.

Who has said this season is a failure already? Recently. Not when shocked the team did the same thing as four years ago.
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You have said other than Clay. So I am going to use Clay as a qualifier. Clay seems to think we can win 5-7 games.
There are a lot of people in http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...or+this+season that think even worse.
Without doing a lot of searching I can tell you Sweet Daddy Hate is right there with GoChiefs. Not to mention those in the thread above.

Mav 07-27-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9838306)
I can't imagine why all of Alex Smith's coaches have been "run first" guys...

Really?

Mike Nolan came from Baltimore, which was RUN FIRST WITH JAMAL LEWIS.

Mike Singletary, came from CHICAGO, UNDER DITKA, then from BALTIMORE with Nolan, who was RUN FIRST.

Jim Harbaugh, came from Stanford where he had the BEST QB TO BE DRAFTED IN THE PAST 15 YEARS, and he ran 58 percent of the time in college, and ran more with Kaep, than he threw.

You tell me? maybe that's because that's WHO THOSE COACHES ARE, and less about Alex Smith, especially when I can show you that Jim Harbaugh, an offensive GENIUS still runs more with Andrew luck, and Kaep, as well as Alex.

You aren't very smart are you?

Marcellus 07-27-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9838304)
I didn't say today.

And we are talking about the present not months ago.

Hell I asked Mac first and he wasn't even here around that time. some were shocked when the trade went down and said crazy shit. I'm not seeing many at all saying this season is a failure already. Link me to them
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What is the difference between not thinking Alex Smith will never ever win a PO game as a Chief and believing the season is a failure?

Sorry I dont see the difference.

Now if you think its a possibility, then you have hope.

Many people do not believe it is remotely possible.

I think its a possibility this year.

Granted we haven't even seen a preseason game yet.

Mav 07-27-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9838299)
did you trade for another teams backup qb repeatedly and everytime in the past it had failed? Did every time fans of the other team come around and tell you how great a deal out was and how great that player was going to be? Did those fans tell you how you should feel about it?

Seriously go back to your board and leave us to wallow in negativity. We well be ok without you here to keep out heads up
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No niners fan came here with that. Now, maybe pats fans did, but no niners fans came here and preached how great he was going to be. Oh, and do people keep missing the CHIEFS part of his user name?

SAUTO 07-27-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9838292)
That honestly, is my biggest problem here. You guys don't know shit about what Alex Smith can and cant do. This will be the first year that he will be given complete confidence, and control by his head coach. Every single head coach he has had, has been a run first coach. Hell, Jim Harbaugh, still ran the ball more than he threw with Kaepernick. And I keep hearing people say, if Alex is asked to throw more, hes going to fail. It depends on the throws. If he is still making the short throws that lead to Bowe, or Avery or a tight end, getting a first down, or making their own yards, why would he fail? He has proven to be very VERY good at that. You don't have the personnel to chuck it up all the time. he doesn't have Desean Jackson, and Jeremy Maclin to throw to.

That's why I have said over and over, I have no idea how this is going to pan out, but using anything from San Francisco, as a barometer of how he is going to do here, is stupid, and uninformed hypothetical boring bullshit.

Using what he, had actually done in his career is uninformed hypothetical boring bullshit?

No its facts. Thinking it will be any different would be hypothetical dude.

Facts are facts and by almost any measure Alex Smith is on par with Cassel in terms of production. He averages less than 200 yards a game.

He's been in the league eight years, make all the excuses you want but he's been middle of the pack.
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OnTheWarpath15 07-27-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9838313)
Really?

Mike Nolan came from Baltimore, which was RUN FIRST WITH JAMAL LEWIS.

Mike Singletary, came from CHICAGO, UNDER DITKA, then from BALTIMORE with Nolan, who was RUN FIRST.

Jim Harbaugh, came from Stanford where he had the BEST QB TO BE DRAFTED IN THE PAST 15 YEARS, and he ran 58 percent of the time in college, and ran more with Kaep, than he threw.

You tell me? maybe that's because that's WHO THOSE COACHES ARE, and less about Alex Smith, especially when I can show you that Jim Harbaugh, an offensive GENIUS still runs more with Andrew luck, and Kaep, as well as Alex.

You aren't very smart are you?

LMAO

I'm not the dumbass making excuse after excuse for a guy who has been downright terrible his 7 years in the league.

Oh, wait. I'm supposed to ignore the first 5 and just focus the the last two - which by sheer coincidence are the same years his organization was dying to get rid of him.

Yawn. Pats trolls. Niner trolls. Rinse. Repeat.

keg in kc 07-27-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9838305)
I think he's their guy, if he produces. The people saying, MC trade=AS trade, must feel that Smith will be "the guy" no matter what he does. I don't feel that way at all. I believe, if after a few mediocre years the Chief are treading water, they'll move on from Smith.

I think he's extended after this season regardless, so I'm closer to being in the other camp. I don't think he'll be on a short leash. I'd be surprised if he's here less than 5 years, and I don't think there's any way he'll be here less than 3.

Chief Roundup 07-27-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9838288)
People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?

LMAO

NO


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