Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10477083)

You're talking about everything in retrospect.

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10477083)

Before the 2013 season, no one would have even considered any of those guys you mentioned at #1 overall. The only one I would have considered would've been Star but that quickly fell by the wayside after his heart condition was discovered.

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10477083)

People being pissed at the Fisher pick now are just being stupid. He was the only choice that would have really made sense at the time given how our roster looked and everything that we did in the off-season in terms of cleaning house, re-signing players, signing FAs, and how the draft prospects were shaping up both on and off the field.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10477077)

They would have come into Year 1 (with that stop-gap, make us respectable QB) with an established, top 10 LT and a promising young player with good physical ability at RT. How is that any different than how they started the 2013 season? (It's not).

And they'd still be looking at the same decision regarding Albert. As it is, they're going into that QB's second season looking like they will use that same promising third-round player in a starting spot (and LT if they align them based on merit so far) ... and still with a complete unknown/unproven guy at the other tackle.

Throwing 1st round picks at the T spot is not the only way to get good players in there. Except, apparently, in KC.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10477093)

Um yeah. It happened in the past, did it not.



That's what separates the winners from the also-rans. Finding guys that don't fit the mold.



ROFL

Here's to another 2 decades of futility.

Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10477094)

Yeah but, they didn't like Stephenson in that role. They didn't trust him as a stop gap. So much so that they chose not to trade Albert when they could have. I am sure they did their due diligence on Stephenson. Imo he wasn't that great when he started at LT. He's a good back up but he's not starting material on that side imo.

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10477100)

Yeah, no, we should have taken Geno Smith! :clap:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10477104)

So much so that when Albert went down, they inserted Stephenson in at LT.

If Stephenson isn't starting material, what does that make Fisher?

It's time for people to come to terms with the fact that the Chiefs took a RT at 1.1. Does that mean Fisher is a lost cause? Not to me. Fisher can still be a productive play and contribute from the right side of the line.

It just wasn't an efficient use of the resources at hand. There's no other way to slice it.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10477104)

So much so that when Albert went down, they inserted Stephenson in at LT.

If Stephenson isn't starting material, what does that make Fisher?

It's time for people to come to terms with the fact that the Chiefs took a RT at 1.1. Does that mean Fisher is a lost cause? Not to me. Fisher can still be a productive play and contribute from the right side of the line.

It just wasn't an efficient use of the resources at hand. There's no other way to slice it.

Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10477118)

They switched Fisher's position. They didn't want to move him back to left because they didn't want to put too much on him. He was a rookie. Reid talked about this last fall. Fisher is going to be the starting LT next year like it or not.

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10477112)

I'd bet Fisher starts the season at LT.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10477104)

So much so that when Albert went down, they inserted Stephenson in at LT.

If Stephenson isn't starting material, what does that make Fisher?

It's time for people to come to terms with the fact that the Chiefs took a RT at 1.1. Does that mean Fisher is a lost cause? Not to me. Fisher can still be a productive play and contribute from the right side of the line.

It just wasn't an efficient use of the resources at hand. There's no other way to slice it.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10477123)

Putting too much on him? How would it be putting too much on him to move him back to his natural spot where he's played for years? The spot where his natural reactions would kick back in?

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10477127)

What should they have done? And you don't get the benefit of hindsight, because you're not giving it to the Chiefs. You wanted Geno Smith, as did I, as did a lot of people.

The Chiefs clearly used their resources better than we would have. Because a starting right tackle is significantly more valuable than a bust of a QB.

So what should they have done? As long as your complaining, how about offering a legitimate alternative?

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10477127)

What should they have done? And you don't get the benefit of hindsight, because you're not giving it to the Chiefs. You wanted Geno Smith, as did I, as did a lot of people.

The Chiefs clearly used their resources better than we would have. Because a starting right tackle is significantly more valuable than a bust of a QB.

So what should they have done? As long as your complaining, how about offering a legitimate alternative?

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10477124)

Despite all of the adulation for Dorsey and Reid here that they don't care about draft position and they're going to start the guys that earn it, I'll be he does too.

For the long-term health of the team, it's probably necessary. I just hope Alex Smith doesn't get killed in the process.

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10477140)

I think it's the only thing that adds up. They started this plan to deal with Albert hitting free agency last offseason, and they invested a #1 pick. It would make no sense give up on Fisher before they ever even tried him as the full-time starter LT.