How many times was James Harrison cut before given a real chance? No Corey Mays sucked 10 kinds of moose dicks. Mays isn't half the player Mauga is.

You don't understand the concept. You only see A=B

He was cut 4 times. I'm not going to hold my breath on Fred Williams being the next James Harrison. If that's what you want to do, that's your prerogative. But he's 27 years old, this is his first year even making the practice squad. Harrison made the practice squad his first year and was even on the roster for a few weeks in that year. By his 4th season, he was MILES ahead of where Williams is now. He was actually playing in regular season games and making significant contributions. Fred isn't and never has and likely never will.

I understand the concept. But stop comparing Fred Williams to guys who are CLEARLY better than him. He's a guy from St ****ing Cloud State University (where?), has been a pro for 4 years and is just now sniffing the practice squad for the first time this year. Comparing him to guys like Jamaal Charles and James Harrison is a joke. By their 4th years, they were playing in actual NFL games and were actually good.

I've always been fine with Avant, but Spencer Ware is a good counterpoint to your argument.

I don't think anyone is asking you to. Just suggesting that he may do a better role at PR than Hammond. Is that so impossible? Good time to bring him up and give him some work. Maybe he will take the opportunity and kick ass... who can say? but we KNOW what Hammond can do.. and most everyone agrees that it's not good.

I don't like Hammond really either. But he does average more yards per return than DeAnthony Thomas surprisingly. So he must not be as bad as we think. And if Reid and Toub thought Fred Williams could do it better, they'd probably have switched a few weeks ago. Either they don't think he's better, or they're both stupid and don't know what they're doing. I'll bet on the former.

Not really. Ware's 3 years younger than Williams. He made an NFL roster his first year in the league. He was then signed to the Chiefs his 2nd year. Made the practice squad his first year with us, and was later activated and has played in games since then.

There's a huge difference between him and Fred Williams.

No one is comparing player player.
We are comparng situations.

When I tell you that Kurt Warner was a 27 year old, who had 4 years professional experience before he got his opportunity with the Rams, and he was clearly better than Trent Green, I am not saying that Fred Williams would have a potential HoF career if given the opportunity.

I am only saying that he might well be clearly better than Jason Avant.

Theres a slim chance chance you're right. But most likely, Fred Williams will end his career with the same number of catches he started with. And it won't be because of a conspiracy to keep him on the practice squad and out of the league. It's because he's not good enough to play in the NFL. You can literally make the Kurt Warner comparison about any 27 year old player who hasn't done shit in the league. More realistically though, Fred Williams is closer to a player who's best ever accomplishment is making a practice squad for a year or two.

I'm comparing situations not player for player. No one compared him to play wise to those guys. It's about the situation.

Avant is garbage. His penalties cancel out his reception.

I'm not a big Fred Williams fan, but it's clear he should have made it over Avant.

IMO the loss of Thomas is a big deal. We haven't needed him in the recent wins but our offense is better with him in than out.

For some reason Reid only likes to use DAT package/plays in the first half though. I guess he feels that you cant use them more than once or twice in a game?

Really, we lose Jamal for the season, Houston for a 1/4 of the season, Hali for 3 games but Thomas not playing is the big deal?

Lynch has five seasons of 280+ carries. Charles has one. Charles has had his carries carefully managed his entire career because he gets dinged easily, and there is no way that someone who watches Chiefs games regularly can deny this.