Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12425604)

It's honestly tough to say. He obviously had some level of talent coming out of college or we wouldn't have drafted him. It sounds like he's not that smart of a guy, as the most public criticism we've heard about him is that he's had a lot of trouble grasping the terminology the Chiefs use. Aside from that, he largely just couldn't get on the field above other guys we drafted later, so he pretty much showed the fans nothing.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12425634)

There had to have been an off the field issue then.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12425688)

For as hell bent as Dorsey was on getting back into the third round (seriously, Captain Ahab wasn't as fixated as Dorsey was on the third round), he sure shit it away, didn't he?

So in effect, the Chiefs gave away an additional year of team control of Chris Jones for....nothing. Nothing at all. And that's what I hated about that trade down to begin with.

It wasn't Chris Jones, it was that if you really think Jones is a player, you just take him in the first and leverage the value of the player option to save yourself a shitload in the long-run. Agents are digging their heels in on franchise numbers now that they've gotten so high. The franchise tag isn't going to be much of a benefit for teams going forward. So if you can't get guys extended early, you're stuck fighting in the market for them.

One way to help get that extension is the threat of the 5th year option (see Fisher's deal, and Fisher's deal was even harder because the 5th year option for him was more than twice what it would be for a late first rounder).

The trade down failed.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12425711)

I think this hinges on Parker Ehinger, who we drafted with through the compensation for that trade.

And honestly the kid looks like he could be a solid G after a year in the weight room. We'll have to see.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12425542)

I'm the deadbeat? Go get those teeth fixed and build up those biceps, you worthless reerun.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12425634)

There had to have been an off the field issue then.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12425688)

The trade down failed.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12425736)

5. QB Kevin Hogan -- on another roster

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12425747)

Hogan is on the Browns Practice Squad, not roster.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12425736)

Right now, the 2016 draft class:

2. DE Chris Jones -- solid hit so far
3. CB Keivarae Russell -- epic fail
4. OG Parker Ehinger -- solid hit so far
4. S Eric Murray -- actual potential
4. WR Demarcus Robinson -- struggling
5. QB Kevin Hogan -- on another roster
5. WR Tyreek Hill -- solid hit so far
6. CB D.J. White -- actual potential
6. OLB Dadi Nicholas -- actual potential

Still looks like an okay draft if Russell completely flatlines.

Shocking he was released so soon. He had to have ****ed up in a very serious way.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12425760)

nitpick:

Was never a fan or not of him, but why doesn't WR Robinson get more slack? It's not like he's had much sample size, or shown to be good or bad, really. Not like he was expected to step right in as a WR1-3 contributor.