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CasselGotPeedOn 05-12-2017 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12868507)
Good evening, douchebag! So now it's come out that the Chiefs were all-in for Mahomes almost a YEAR before the draft.
I guess I'd better call John and Andy up and see if they'd like to contribute to our new site, yes? Yes.
I know it burns your dumb ass greatly that the Chiefs have elected to become relevant in the modern league, and have thrown your most beloved team-building traditions in to the trash-heap, but you're just going to have to live with the facts that times change, Alex sucks monkey dick, QB1 Death Cult won the war and beat your ass in to the dirt, and that the Chiefs FO is walking in beautiful, harmonious, lock-step with Draftubation Nation.

He's not taking it well at all. He's already hoping Mahomes turns into Todd Blackledge. He's mentioned it in multiple posts. What a ****ing loser.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-12-2017 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12868542)
How many possessions did each team have?

:facepalm:

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 12869136)
Yeah, it is too bad our offense couldn't do that, or keep long sustained drives going.

Pitt 34 rushing attempts (171 yards) to KC's 14 rushing attempts (61 yards)
Time of possession: Pitt 34 minutes to Chiefs 26 minutes

They had the ball for almost a full quarter longer than we did and since they scored 6 times, the 26 minutes we had the ball our starting field position was deep in our own territory.

Where the hell is the common sense around here???

threebag 05-12-2017 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 12869263)
He's not taking it well at all. He's already hoping Mahomes turns into Todd Blackledge. He's mentioned it in multiple posts. What a ****ing loser.

Not hoping that at all. Alex can't play forever, we need to have someone ready to go when he retires :)

So kindly go **** off

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-12-2017 10:11 AM

Our starting field position in the Pitt game was atrocious because our defense couldn't force punts which would have put the ball into the hands of our dynamic punt returner

1) 45 yard line -> touchdown
2) 12 yard line -> punt
3) 25 yard line -> INT
4) 20 yard line -> punt
5) 16 yard line -> fumble
6) 24 yard line -> punt
7) 21 yard line -> punt
8) 46 yard line -> FG
9) 25 yard -> TD

SAUTO 05-12-2017 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12869423)
Our starting field position in the Pitt game was atrocious because our defense couldn't force punts which would have put the ball into the hands of our dynamic punt returner

1) 45 yard line -> touchdown
2) 12 yard line -> punt
3) 25 yard line -> INT
4) 20 yard line -> punt
5) 16 yard line -> fumble
6) 24 yard line -> punt
7) 21 yard line -> punt
8) 46 yard line -> FG
9) 25 yard -> TD


we would have still won the game if the QB would have just thrown it to the same dynamic player you are talking about.

the odds of that being a TD are MUCH GREATER than him returning a kick for a TD.

:D


and what is the average starting field position in an NFL game, those look pretty normal to me...

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-12-2017 10:20 AM

Again, Sauto, you sit and blame the QB who has turned this franchise around, who had his receivers drop 4-5 important catches, who led us down the field for a TD and a 2 point conversion that was wrongly overturned by a holding call....while failing to address that our #1 rated running game in 2015 dropped to #20 in efficiency, andrun defense ranked in the bottom 7 in the league last season.

We drafted Kareem Hunt to leap West in the rotation. We picked up Bennie Logan to be a run stuffer.

Common. Sense.

RunKC 05-12-2017 10:20 AM

Andy should have ran Ware more in that game. 4.4 YPC and only 8 carries? His first 3 carries were for 13 yards.

We lost bc we put the game in Alex's hands. The Ware missed throw was horrific, the Kelce "drop" was horribly placed below his waist making it harder to catch, and we all know the Tyreek Hill miss was the straw that broke the camels back.

Alex won't carry teams. He loses to real teams bc he can't make plays happen to win.
Run Ware and Hunt and lower Alex's attempts this year.

Sandy Vagina 05-12-2017 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12869445)
Andy should have ran Ware more in that game. 4.4 YPC and only 8 carries? His first 3 carries were for 13 yards.

We lost bc we put the game in Alex's hands. The Ware missed throw was horrific, the Kelce "drop" was horribly placed below his waist making it harder to catch, and we all know the Tyreek Hill miss was the straw that broke the camels back.

Alex won't carry teams. He loses to real teams bc he can't make plays happen to win.
Run Ware and Hunt and lower Alex's attempts this year.

blaming the placement of that Kelce drop is just shameful... and frankly, discredits any other opinion you ever have on this.

I wonder how the perception changes if Bowe taps that second foot in... or the ref doesn't flag Fisher..

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-12-2017 10:26 AM

https://i.imgflip.com/1kdv0b.gif

"But Smith can't make reads!!" - CP morons who know nothing about game film or statistics


Alex Smith stats with 4+ Receivers on the field
2014: 63/95, 66% complet, 7.08 avg, 10 td’s, 1 INT…117.6 rating
2015: 73/110, 66% completion, 7.00 avg, 6TD/1 INT, 100.9 rating
2016: 146/193, 75% completion, 7 avg, 8TD/3INT, 101.8 rating

RunKC 05-12-2017 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12869454)
blaming the placement of that Kelce drop is just shameful... and frankly, discredits any other opinion you ever have on this.

I wonder how the perception changes if Bowe taps that second foot in... or the ref doesn't flag Fisher..

Or if Alex simply hits a wide open Tyreek Hill for a TD in a clean pocket..

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-12-2017 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12869445)
Andy should have ran Ware more in that game. 4.4 YPC and only 8 carries? His first 3 carries were for 13 yards.

We lost bc we put the game in Alex's hands. The Ware missed throw was horrific, the Kelce "drop" was horribly placed below his waist making it harder to catch, and we all know the Tyreek Hill miss was the straw that broke the camels back.

Alex won't carry teams. He loses to real teams bc he can't make plays happen to win.
Run Ware and Hunt and lower Alex's attempts this year.

Except when Alex put the team on his back against Indy and New England both games where he didn't have his #1 RB (Charles and Ware) ...but of course blame is to never be placed all-around. Just the QB.

Your logic is severely flawed and utterly stupid.

Sandy Vagina 05-12-2017 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12869461)
Or if Alex simply hits a wide open Tyreek Hill for a TD in a clean pocket..

Look, I get that. It was a huge, missed opportunity. He has to own that. That's one missed opportunity, and all QBs miss something glaring to us after the fact. It sucks.. but it doesn't change the reality of the rest.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-12-2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12869461)
Or if Alex simply hits a wide open Tyreek Hill for a TD in a clean pocket..

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12869476)
Look, I get that. It was a huge, missed opportunity. He has to own that. That's one missed opportunity, and all QBs miss something glaring to us after the fact. It sucks.. but it doesn't change the reality of the rest.

And Smith admitted he missed it. But as Reid and Smith both said, that play didn't have Tyreek in the progressions. Odd, but it's true. Look at the play where he hits Tyreek for the game tying TD against Denver, you literally have Harris out wide making zero movement because he is a non-factor. Tyreek saw an opportunity in that Pitt game and ran down the field but Smith was flushed out to the right with no intention to even make a play across his body (again, which QBs are crazy enough to throw across their body even with a big arm). Those opportunities/mishaps are few and far between... why people fixate on it like it was the game deciding mistake can only be explained by ignorance.

RunKC 05-12-2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12869476)
Look, I get that. It was a huge, missed opportunity. He has to own that. That's one missed opportunity, and all QBs miss something glaring to us after the fact. It sucks.. but it doesn't change the reality of the rest.

Not like this. It was clearly something Andy went over with Alex when he was discussing that interview.

It was a play that made Andy (finally!) realize that he was capped and lead to Patrick Mahomes.

Sandy Vagina 05-12-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12869483)
Not like this. It was clearly something Andy went over with Alex when he was discussing that interview.

It was a play that made Andy (finally!) realize that he was capped and lead to Patrick Mahomes.

You are welcomed to draw that conclusion, but it's a pure, wishful guess on your part.

My stance is that Smith made it clear to Andy that he was not going to be playing for much longer.. so this knowledge made it all the more clear that getting a QBotF needed to be a higher priority than perhaps first anticipated.

To me, it looks like Hill was the deep decoy, and Smith never really looked at him... started to move away from a pass altogether just as we see Hill breaking wide open.

I can't imagine a scenario where Smith sees Hill wide open, and just elects to not hit him.. on a throw that most of us could reasonably make. No, it's far more likely that Hill was just a decoy, and never really looked at in that split second of decision.

It's water under the bridge now, and Mahomes will be the future soon enough. That will be what is best for Smith, and hopefully, for KC too.


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