Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13241698)

Mahomes looked very good in preseason. He couldn't be taking that big of a step back in practices.

I think this has everything to do with the Chiefs being loyal to Alex and nothing to do with what they think of Mahomes.

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13242613)

The WCO is a complex terminology, for sure. So while I do understand the reasoning for Mahomes to not play this year due to the complexness of the WCO, the flip side of the argument is, wouldn't the learning curve somewhat speed up if he were to apply it to a real live game situation instead of learning it on the classroom with no on-the-job learning experience?

If the Chiefs were 8-3 instead of 6-5, even with Smith's struggles right now, I can see the reasoning of not putting him into it because of the 8-3 record. The end result would still most likely be bounced out of the playoffs in a Wild Card round. But unfortunately, they are not 8-3 and with Smith's struggles on top of that, it just makes it frustrating to watch, considering most of everybody knows that the end result will most likely either be one and done, or possibly (if they keep losing) missing the playoffs.

So why not give the kid a chance? There is similar precedent, the 2004 NYG team where they were 5-2, but Kurt Warner was struggling and was benched in favor of Eli Manning. They did miss the playoffs that year, but it paid dividends down the road.

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13242613)

The WCO is a complex terminology, for sure. So while I do understand the reasoning for Mahomes to not play this year due to the complexness of the WCO, the flip side of the argument is, wouldn't the learning curve somewhat speed up if he were to apply it to a real live game situation instead of learning it on the classroom with no on-the-job learning experience?

Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13242686)

Smiths last game is vs NYJ pending a win

Mahomes will start vrs Oakland

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13242710)

Bet not.

Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13242717)

I'm down for a bet.

This will be absolute hell week for Andy and Chiefs PR, if we see another game like yesterday vs the Jets, the amount of embarrassing boos at home will be deafening against our rival.

They will save face and make the move.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13242681)

I know this will be an unpopular opinion. Here's what I saw in Patrick mahomes. Kid could have a terrific career as big Ben right now. Never know how to read a defense but can freelance like crazy. Big Ben for most of his career held on to the ball for 10seconds. It wasn't until haley came along 10 years later and forced him to run an offense with Ben kicking and screaming that he changed. That's fine... But big Ben got clobbered. I don't want mahomes to get clobbered.

Other qbs like him... McNabb couldn't stay healthy. Brett Favre went an entire career hopped up on painkillers. Aaron rodgers of all these guys seemed to find the best balance of staying healthy. I'd like him to become more rodgers than big Ben. And that starts with forcing him to learn how to be a qb before he realizes he can get away with constantly freelancing. Anyway... I know thats unpopular. But I think he can learn more on the bench right now than on the field.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13242729)

Since the day Andy acquired him, Alex has never had competition for the starting spot. Mahomes hasn't changed that. There was never a competition for the #1 QB spot. Mahomes wasn't groomed to start this year.

Taking Smith out of the equation, the offense is not in synch. Too many penalties. Bad play calling. Can't run block for their lives. You had two receivers trying to catch the same screen pass yesterday. The final INT was a miscommunication between Smith and the WR.

Don't blame Smith for the state of the team. Smith is the same QB that Harbaugh "fixed" 5 years ago. He. Is. What. He. Is. Blame the head coach/offensive coordinator for riding this shit show.

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 13242674)

Hell, if it is that hard, why tell him the play in the headset and have him repeat it. Give him one of those forearm band playlist things, and tell him "page 3, play 5" and let him read it to the team. If he knows the keywords... which he should by now... that shouldn't be a problem.

Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 13242679)

Bingo, we have a winner!

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 13242851)

Yeah, Smith sucks. Thing is, why hate on him. If the Chiefs asked me to play QB for millions of dollars a year I'd happily do it. I'd suck, but I'd do it. It's not Alex Smith's fault that he sucks and he's still the QB of the team. That falls on Reid. CP should be filled with Reid sucks threads rather than Alex sucks threads. Shame on this organization for sticking with guys too long. I'm not of the opinion that the Alex Smith trade was a bad one. Hell, he gave the Chiefs several winning seasons, and a couple of playoff wins which we hadn't seen here in quite a while. But now, the new Sherrif is in town, and it's time to get rid of Smith. I'm done bashing Alex. I'm bashing Reid from here on out until he gives the young kid a chance, ALA Jared Goff, DeShawn Watson, etc.

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 13242851)

Yeah, Smith sucks. Thing is, why hate on him. If the Chiefs asked me to play QB for millions of dollars a year I'd happily do it. I'd suck, but I'd do it. It's not Alex Smith's fault that he sucks and he's still the QB of the team. That falls on Reid. CP should be filled with Reid sucks threads rather than Alex sucks threads. Shame on this organization for sticking with guys too long. I'm not of the opinion that the Alex Smith trade was a bad one. Hell, he gave the Chiefs several winning seasons, and a couple of playoff wins which we hadn't seen here in quite a while. But now, the new Sherrif is in town, and it's time to get rid of Smith. I'm done bashing Alex. I'm bashing Reid from here on out until he gives the young kid a chance, ALA Jared Goff, DeShawn Watson, etc.