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FAX 04-25-2019 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14229899)
Sadly minorities are "guilty" until proven innocent in many American's eyes. And this will never change. She recorded him and made accusations which he denied. But hey, the mob party has formed and they want blood. I just pray the Chiefs are smarter today than they were with Kareem. Show some guts and weather the storm because the only team who loses here is us, no-one else. and the same biased hypocrites will turn around and cry when Tyreek signs with another team and we lose in the playoffs AGAIN.

That's partly true (from my perspective) ... the racial aspect, I mean. There's a long-established trope of the "Violent Black Man". I get it. Not that I believe that race has any significant correlation to violent behavior. I think upbringing does, though .. more of a "nurture over nature" idea ...

As for hypocrites ... hell, they're everywhere these days. Always have been. That's nature/nurture stuff too, usually. Or a Jungian Complex in which the uninformed observer subconsciously attempts to attach an icon or archetype to a person or behavior. They often can't help themselves.

Then there's the child abuser personality under discussion. Does this tape (as it exists on this thread) provide or offer conclusive evidence that Tyreek abuses his kid? I'm not hearing it. Do I hear a woman try to entrap him while secretly recording their conversation? That's another question entirely ... then again, I'm probably just stupid, racist, or a hypocrite. Or something worse ...

FAX

jd1020 04-25-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 14230260)
Those are the easy dots to connect. Of course it looks bad. I’m demonstrating that there is more to it than just those dots.

Can you deny that either scenario is possible with the information you currently possess?

I think we have drifted past a reasonable doubt that Tyreek Hill abuses his kid.

DrunkBassGuitar 04-25-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 14230239)
Curious (because I don’t know) but would the police have asked his boy who broke his arm and if the kid said Daddy would they be able to act on that? Not commenting on the case but was interested to know if police actually interview minors in situations like this?

they would have alerted DFS which would have done an investigation and determined if it was just like an injury that a kid got from falling off a bike or a trampoline or something or if there were signs of abuse.

On a related note: DFS removed the child from Hill and his fiancee's custody.

In58men 04-25-2019 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 14230152)
It's a terrible attempt at a setup.

It’s just too much drama ya know.

They both need major help. He needs a break from the NFL to focus on being a responsible parent.

chiefzilla1501 04-25-2019 07:53 PM

At this point... Cmon. I don't want it to be true. This isn't a choir boy who finds himself in a gray area. This is a guy skating on thin ice already. Whether he's guilty or not. No doubt whatsoever he still has anger issues. I think anyone defending him at this point is clinging to a thin reality.

rabblerouser 04-25-2019 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 14229861)
I'm afraid Mr Fax... that the NFL will..

Let them.

He's gonna get suspended. 8 games. Then he comes back.

If I'm the Chiefs, I stipulate that he no longer has anything to do with that crazy ****ed up conniving bitch.

The ONLY time he's ever been in trouble is when she's been pregnant and hormonal.

And let's not overlook the fact that she's an admitted LIAR, who admits to perjury on the tape.

Hell, we don't know that she didn't lie when she accused him of beating her the first time, in Oklahoma.

Liar is as a liar does.

In58men 04-25-2019 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14230252)
Admitting to whipping a toddler with a belt puts him in Adrian Peterson territory..

It’s starting to become sickening

FAX 04-25-2019 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14229934)
You really took that seriously? "And you should be terrified of me too bitch that's why you can't keep a ****ing man"....THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE so It's not even to be taken seriously imo. I think he meant "You should be terrified of me leaving you", hence the "can't keep a man" line but hey, people have made up their minds and clearly aren't prepared to budge.

Where does he say that?

Am I listening to the wrong video?

FAX

RINGLEADER 04-25-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 14230281)
they would have alerted DFS which would have done an investigation and determined if it was just like an injury that a kid got from falling off a bike or a trampoline or something or if there were signs of abuse.

On a related note: DFS removed the child from Hill and his fiancee's custody.

I get that they found evidence that something happened — I’m asking if they will ask the child point blank if one or the other parent abused him?

Graystoke 04-25-2019 07:56 PM

The biggest question in this thread is who stole FAX’s account?

Molitoth 04-25-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14230195)
Fair question. How many of you got your ass whipped with a belt when you were a kid?

I did. Several times.

Is it that it's actually child abuse, or have we become a society that screams child abuse whenever anyone touches their kid? Personally, I think far too few kids of the last 20 years have had their asses whooped but good at least once. I think we're too ****ing soft on kids and they have mostly turned into a bunch of useless, mouthy ****s.

I'm not suggesting you beat the living dog shit out of the kid and that this is okay. I'm saying, I got my pants yanked down and one good ****ing crack with a belt. I don't see anything inherently wrong with that, situationally.

Now, punching a kid in the chest? Yeah, I have issues with that if he was, quite literally, punching a 3-year-old kid. Now was he actually "punching" the kid or was he giving him a little fist bump and saying "come on kiddo suck it up and be my little man?" Big ****ing difference and one she could twist in the wrong light.

Very good post here.
Agreed.

TwistedChief 04-25-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14230295)
Where does he say that?

Am I listening to the wrong video?

FAX

Good to know you’ve opined on the video and its content at length without watching it.

penguinz 04-25-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14230290)
Let them.

He's gonna get suspended. 8 games. Then he comes back.

If I'm the Chiefs, I stipulate that he no longer has anything to do with that crazy ****ed up conniving bitch.

The ONLY time he's ever been in trouble is when she's been pregnant and hormonal.

And let's not overlook the fact that she's an admitted LIAR, who admits to perjury on the tape.

Hell, we don't know that she didn't lie when she accused him of beating her the first time, in Oklahoma.

Liar is as a liar does.

Someone does not know the definition of perjury.

kjwood75nro 04-25-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14230252)
Admitting to whipping a toddler with a belt puts him in Adrian Peterson territory..

https://youtu.be/nLpKXicChB0

jettio 04-25-2019 07:58 PM

They might as well make it illegal to be black if an eavesdrop tape of what a mom says a 3 year old said is something you lose your job over according to white people.

A recording taken at an airport half a world away?


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