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Mecca 08-31-2023 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17081470)
Sony just increased Playstation Plus by almost 30% for each tier....with no upgrade in service.
I'm so tired of this, every hobby is becoming so expensive I might as well just not do anything other than work, chores and stare at the ****ing wall.

LoneWolf 08-31-2023 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17081783)
LOL, dude... you can't tell us we're the ones doing mental gymnastics and act like this is a valid response.

You damn well know there's only one Patrick Mahomes.

That's like saying you don't have to use ticketmaster to watch Smashing Pumpkins, just go down the street and watch that garage band of teenagers if you don't like it.

Acting like a monopoly is bad for consumers and isn't any more ethical than getting around the bullshit of acting like one.
I deleted my post because I didn't see your clarification on the definition of a monopoly before I posted it, but the argument that their is only one Patrick Mahomes is dumb as shit. The talent within the product isn't what makes it a monopoly. Their is only one Classic Coke. Does that mean that Coca Cola has a monopoly?

loochy 08-31-2023 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17081789)
I mean I don't think anyone really "cares" the only people who get super indignant about this are either older or don't understand how it works...

The overwhelmingly majority of younger people are perfectly fine finding a stream for something. Hell lots of people pirate all kinds of shit from movies to games etc etc.

Hell, I have a pirated Mahomes jersey that looks damn near identical to the authentic Nike. Long live the pirates, matey!

The Franchise 08-31-2023 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17081800)
I'm so tired of this, every hobby is becoming so expensive I might as well just not do anything other than work, chores and stare at the ****ing wall.
$80 a year minimum to use the internet you pay for…to play the console you already paid for. Ridiculous.

DaFace 08-31-2023 11:36 AM
Didn't expect to be reading Napster-era debates in 2023.

Mecca 08-31-2023 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17081804)
Hell, I have a pirated Mahomes jersey that looks damn near identical to the authentic Nike. Long live the pirates, matey!
For example...

I pirate EA games, know why? They have stolen enough of my money over the years on pure dogshit products I don't trust them enough to give them 70 dollars sight unseen.

Mecca 08-31-2023 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17081807)
$80 a year minimum to use the internet you pay for…to play the console you already paid for. Ridiculous.
It might be worth it if they would improve the extra tier like for example xboxes gamepass beats it's ****ing ass, yet sony want more.

Explain to me why the show 23 is available on xbox game pass but not on sony's game service? It's a ****ing sony game what the ****?

AussieChiefsFan 08-31-2023 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17081810)
Didn't expect to be reading Napster-era debates in 2023.
Streamers are collectively the reason why Patty isn't paid as much as he should be.

Edit: and why we haven't signed Chris Jones yet.

Mecca 08-31-2023 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 17081820)
Streamers are collectively the reason why Patty isn't paid as much as he should be.

Edit: and why we haven't signed Chris Jones yet.
I hope everyone who was part of that learned a valuable lesson...Pat you do not want to be Lars Ulrich, don't say anything.

Bearcat 08-31-2023 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17081803)
I deleted my post because I didn't see your clarification on the definition of a monopoly before I posted it, but the argument that their is only one Patrick Mahomes is dumb as shit. The talent within the product isn't what makes it a monopoly. Their is only one Classic Coke. Does that mean that Coca Cola has a monopoly?
It's absolutely the level of competition that defines whether you can act as a monopoly.

If Coke only had to compete with Cheerwine or Moxie, they could act as a monopoly and basically do whatever the **** they wanted.

It's obviously not the NFL's fault that there's only so much elite talent out there, but it's absolutely their fault to take that advantage and act as a monopoly. If the XFL or whatever they're called could compete, you'd see HUGE changes in blackout rules and the availability of games and so forth.

They would be forced to act ethically in a competitive market, where as right now they aren't and don't.

Mecca 08-31-2023 11:46 AM
Blackout rules are literally something that were invented what 40+ years ago?

Maybe they should I dunno get with the times.

LoneWolf 08-31-2023 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17081827)
It's absolutely the level of competition that defines whether you can act as a monopoly.

If Coke only had to compete with Cheerwine or Moxie, they could act as a monopoly and basically do whatever the **** they wanted.

It's obviously not the NFL's fault that there's only so much elite talent out there, but it's absolutely their fault to take that advantage and act as a monopoly. If the XFL or whatever they're called could compete, you'd see HUGE changes in blackout rules and the availability of games and so forth.

They would be forced to act ethically in a competitive market, where as right now they aren't and don't.
I have to admit that there isn't much I can argue about in this post. Great argument and really good post.

RunKC 08-31-2023 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17081716)
It makes no sense...

If a company like for example my power company can just arbitrarily raise my rates because they feel like it when it's not like I can switch to another one...there is no competition for this. For no other purpose than to increase revenue for shareholders, then rest assured if I can find a way to get the same thing for less I will do it.

Just funny how they are perfectly fine price gouging people but people who retaliate are the bad ones.
When you have an elite product like the NFL then you can get away with that. Not trying to get political here but that's the market. We've seen big companies lose money from the market.

DJJasonp 08-31-2023 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17081756)
Remember when everyone downloaded music for free off the internet because it was easy? Now no one hardly ever does that because the music industry made it easy to stream stuff for free with ads. Or you can pay a little bit to avoid the ads.

The sports industry views it as losing "$28 billion" but let's be real. The people who are streaming would pay the 28 billion if they thought it was worth it. It's not packaged right for the everyday consumer to get good value out of it.
Spot on.

The NFL is doing just fine.

BleedingRed 08-31-2023 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17081585)
It's morally wrong to knowingly benefit from someone else's illegal activity, but your correct it isn't technically breaking the law. Some people have morals and some don't when it comes to getting what they want.
No its not, I'm documenting a crime. I've submitted 100's of tips to the FBI about Illegal streams over the years.

So many so I've gotten replies back stating... and I quote

"Thanks BleedingRed, keep up the good work and surveillance! You are one of the good guys that truly has amazing morals!"

So.... Check mate


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