Either one of those ****s will make me sick. Got damn this team pisses me off.

I disagree.

Mike Sherman, Tannehill's head coach at Texas A&M, is Miami's offensive coordinator, making the choice of Tannehill a no-brainer.

Then Big Lips

Well, Geno is definately a better prospect. Much more experienced, better production, and a better skill set. If he would take an inferior player more power to him I guess.

Wow! Go to work, come home, Winston gone.

You normally work 24 hour shifts? :)

I'm not sure his due diligence with QB s was so good. He was looking for a job and hammering out his staff for a while. By all accounts KC showed interest in Smith pretty early and talks were happening at the start of the combine.

I wish I could remember the source (TBG?), but someone said earlier that the deal for Smith was in place before the Combine.

To who? The phins took the guy they KNEW, unless you are stupid enough to believe that they would of drafted geno smith over him? Given a draft review, like you are trying to theorize, would of put russell wilson as the 3rd off the board.

So who really is the DUMB SUM A BICH?

**** off. Hes no where near a better player. Tannenhill has a bigger arm, tannenhill is bigger, you get more experienced fine, but Smith played in a gimmick offense in college. Tannenhil ran a PRO STYLE OFFENSE in college, the same damn offense he ran in the pros.

Stfu. you are beyond stupid.

Dont anyone know if teams werent offering more to make KC bump their bid. Im sure KC wasnt trying to give up a 2nd

Tannenhill

Again, I have to disagree with this statement.

Tannehill is bigger, stronger, just as athletic and has a bigger arm. His ceiling is much higher due to the fact that he only started 20 games as a QB in college.

the amount of homerism on a player that you arent even going to draft on this board, is RIDICULOUS. yet, im lambasted.

Rob Rang has Smith at #17 and Barkley at #18 in terms of prospects.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...st-draft-stock

:LOL:

Ryan Tannehill is NOT more athletic than Geno, who can run away from guys like Alex Okafor. He's also BARELY an inch and maybe 10 pounds bigger. Arm strength is in the same league because Geno has a very, very good arm.

Evidently your asshole has been sewed shut for mouths because you keep opening your mouth and shit is coming out.

Throw in Geno's MASSIVE advantage in experience and you don't have a leg to stand on, McSewer.

LMAO

I didn't realize that Geno ****ing Smith was catching touchdowns as a WR in college.

Aren't you tired of getting your dick pulled out your asshole, Asshole?

Ryan Tannehill is NOT more athletic than Geno Smith. Did you even watch the combine? You've openly stated that you only saw two of Geno's games.

You're FOS.

Furthermore, you ****ing moron, Tannehill ran a 4.62 compared to Smith's 4.59. Tannehill is 6'4 and caught 10 TD's a WR for A&M.

But sure, you could put Geno Smith at WR and he'd probably catch 1,000 TD's, right?

LMAO

****ing reerun.

:shake:

um, ryan tannehills lowest 40 was 4.54, geno's was 4.52

tannenhill is a full two inches taller, and is much bigger in body size from just looking at them.

there is a big difference in throwing strength when it comes to driving the ball. clearly you prefer geno smith.

I know there is no poster on Cheifsplanet that is a better evaluator of talent than Reid/Dorsey.

Now, they could be wrong about a player and a poster on the Planet correct. But, at the end of the day Reid/Dorsey will hit on more players than any poster. Thats why they are making millions and we are the fans of the team.

LMAO

"Tannenhill"

My understanding is that the cap savings was only $700k once you account for the accelerated hit from the remaining allocations of the signing bonus.

Agree to disagree then bud. I've watched every throw from Geno this year and feel he'd have easily been the 3rd QB last year. I'll give the coaching and system in Miami leading to them still taking Ryan, but I think Geno is a much better prospect. Experience, accurate, mobile, and a great deep ball. Tannehil was so meh from what I saw coming out last year.

You aren't ready for the big boys yet. Need to slay a few hood rats first.

Good, **** Winston.

Thats a bunch of horseshit.

God DAMN ASF is a stupid pickle-****er...
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And Geno is almost 6"3

HUGE DIFFERENCE YOU CALIFORNIA RAISIN ****ER.

Fed up with your ****ing shit. Ryan Tannehill is in no way a better pro prospect than Geno Smith. ****, you moron, he won all of 13 games in two seasons in college. He'll probably bust according to most historical metrics for college QBs.

If Reid and Dorsey are at least decent at their job then no, that's not horseshit, that's the cold hard truth.

You are to used to *****'s dumb ass and Carl Peterson being an idiot late in his tenure.

Good football guys in the NFL know more than CP, crazy I know.

What do Geno Smith and Ryan Tannehill have in common?















They will both be playing for teams other than KC next season

I think the whole gladiator incident was blown out of proportion first by him and then by the fans. While a few were cheering, the reason why is not clear. Were they cheering for the completed long pass (a true rarity), Brady Quinn warming up, or Cassel being injured? Winston made it seem that 70K people got up singing "Another one bites the dust." The reality was very few were cheering, that the incident was so unnoteworthy it wasn't even mentioned on the broadcast. Had Winston apologized or the Chiefs refuted the statements the whole situation would have been defused. Instead Winston's mediocre play led to his release. He becomes one of the scapegoats.

This could have saved you a bunch of typing.

If they are better evaluators, then why are not posters on Chiefsplanet GM's and coaches in the NFL?

Tell me what this post does to further any conversation? Basically if you believe this shit no NFL guy should ever be critiqued what so ever, even shitty ones like Pioli and Millen cause hey they have NFL jobs and we don't.

Because we all have cushy jobs ****ing pornstars with our 12 inch dicks.

It's pretty common knowledge had Barkley entered last years draft he would have gone in front of Tannehill so yea.

Probably because A) They didn't play college or pro ball B)Didn't have a connection C) Decided to go into a career path that paid more immediately or D) Didn't want to work as a scout, quality control coach, position coach, etc.

There are several people on this website that could definitely work as scouts (most scouts are pretty incompetent and products of both personal/professional nepotism).

The world is filled with billions of talented people that could have done incredible or more worthy things if they'd chosen a different path or things had fallen a certain way.

When I draw ER, yes.

I really hope Alex Smith works out. For what we gave up, he needs to play better than he ever has for us to end up winning the trade.

It sure would be nice to actually enjoy watching football again.

Unfortunately, I have a strong feeling that we are putting our dicks back in the meat grinder.

Spot on
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It's one thing to criticize a track record of failure. Any Monday morning GM can do that. It's entirely different to declare a guy a failure before he even completes his first season just because he traded a draft pick for a vet QB instead of drafting the peanut gallery favorite college prospect. Seriously, there's quite a bit of territory between "no criticism allowed" and "any GM who doesn't share my most cherished opinions is a moron".

Your dicks will make GREAT shitloaf for Lil Chiefy! Lil Chiefy thanks you.
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:spock: What the **** is wrong with you?

Name em

And we are not talking scouts. We are talking Head Coach and GM.

Here is the trouble with that argument.

I could have been a surgeon but instead took another career path. Because of that choice I didn't spend my last 24 years working in the field, so I can read medical journals and watch surgery after surgery but I am not a surgeon and do not have that applicable ability in the real world. Even if I know what I think the surgeon should or could do.

How hard can it be? ROFL

Funny how the arm chair "experts" don't understand this simple concept but could run an NFL franchise on a whim.

That's stretching the analogy a bit. However, there IMO is no replacement for years spent evaluating players on the field, from stands/elevated views, and then comparing it with film to a point where you get a true feel for game speed and several other factors.

As an extremely base example, John Harbaugh's reaction to Te'o's 40. That's his reaction without looking at the time and just watching the player run. That's years of experience and trained skills coming into play.

I do think that there are several people here that could have been talented scouts and could have moved upwards (I don't know anybody here outside of CP so I can't personally attest to their personalities/demeanor). I don't know if any could have been coaches but there are starting to be more coaches that weren't exceptional players/didn't play past HS or at all in the NFL (exceptionally rare though). I do know that there is at least one former scout here.

Not saying they "couldn't have been" but that can't replace the fact they aren't.

Earlier it occurred to me when this subject was brought up, ***** knows more about football than anyone on CP, I don't doubt that for a minute.

Unfortunately his knowledge led him to believe he could do things "different" or "better" which was his downfall. In other words his ego got in the way of his brain.

Knowing things is not the end all be all, being able to apply the knowledge is the key.

I doubt many here have that ability as well.

That could very well be true.

I know of two football coaches on the Planet. But, both are in the closet and I will not out them here.

Its so funny watching everyone just roll the **** over and take it in the ass for this abortion of a "new day". Good God, if I were Clark I'd probably spend half of my time blowing my nose and wiping the tears from my eyes from the constant stream of pants-pissing laughter I'd be subject to at knowing how gullible and overly forgetful/forgiving my teams fanbase is.
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College or pro? I know there are a few HS coaches on here.

he wasnt the starter in 09. shaun hill was. He got pulled because he sucked. and in 2010 yes, he got hurt against the panthers, then benched because singletary is a douche.

People on here are actually making the assumption that the NFL is a meritocracy? Are you ****ing serious?

oh? Pretty hilarious to hear someone glorify geno like this. Who was Tannehill throwing to? Where is his first round receiver? I know this, that when ever the mountaineers played against a decent defense, kansas state pops to mind, geno smith got shut down, and the mountaineers got obliterated.

Its like any profession including yours. Are you saying CP has better professors than real life, in general?

pfff, the turds on this board are small rodents. easily dealt with....

No. Some areas are actually meritocracies and others act as accretion discs of the connected and incompetent. The NFL is the latter.

Have you learned anything over the last decade of sports? Look at who the most influential GMs are in baseball and basketball. It's not the basketball lifers, but the stat nerds, the ones who actually apply a critical, intellectual metric to value players.

It's not a surprise that the least successful teams in sports are also the ones who've followed the inertia of traditional views.

FFS, look at the recalcitrance to go for it on 4th down.

hows the new team search come ass master?

11 games played in 09 within 20 yards as 2010 18 tds 14 into.

Basically his normal year
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Professional football is all about who you know to get where you are. Hell I had an opportunity for a scouting internship that could have lead to more. But I didn't want to live on what would be like somebody flipping burgers at McDonald's makes. The only big advantage that professional scouts have is just the inside information that public don't have access to. Watching games and making a decision on a player isn't some rocket science of a job.

Exactly why theyre paid like shit

Will someone get this mouth-breather a Tonka Truck or a ****ing Elmo to play with?
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Worse.

Yup. And I will tell you why. You wont listen, and you wont understand.

They let alex smith go into the shot gun almost exclusively in 2009. What happened?

Singletary got pissed, drafted Iupati, and Anthony Davis, and decided he was going to run the ball, no matter what. Dont believe me? 2010 was the year the 49ers came to arrowhead and got ass raped. we couldnt get plays in, we could do nothing, and the chiefs beat us senseless. that was the moeaki catch game.

why you looking for others? Y dont you do it?

nlm

Are the Pack and Steelers non traditionally operated teams? What about the NY Giants?

Least successful my ass.

keep making excuses.

Those years almost mirror every year he's played. Average years for him.

He's just not that good
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The teams with QBs that push the ball down the field, are hyper aggressive on offense and blitz the shit out of the QB? No, they aren't.

Traditional approach to the game does not = Franchises with tradition. One is an adjective, the other a noun.

ive never said he was cock cobbler.

all i say is that he will not turn the ball over......which is a huge upgrade from last year.

"We're gonna run the ball and play solid defense"--NFL ****tards too numerous to count, but including: Rex Ryan, Herman Edwards, Jack Del Rio, Steve Spanuolo, and Mike Singletary.

What?

Director of Player Personnel: $455,000
Director of college scouting: $275,000
Pro Personnel Director: $250,000
Assistant to Pro director: $95,000
7 area scouts: $95,000 per scout on average. Total: $665,000
Assistant/administrative: $60,000
Miscellaneous assistant: $45,000

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...derfunded.html

Do you realize you have an excuse for him at every turn?


Homer
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I understood what you meant by traditional. Whats not traditional is the pistol offense.

The Steelers and Giants still run a pocket passer, run the ball when you can on offense even if they throw down field more than the "old" days. They also rely on trying to kill the QB.

The Packers will continue to work on their defense and run game as solely relying on Rodgers will not consistently win.

NE has lost SB's because they can't protect Brady or play defense.

What does that sound like?

The scouts and quality control coaches I've talked to are getting paid 30-60K/year. Granted, these numbers can be skewed by teams paying more for regional scouts that are well developed and other teams having excessive numbers of local scouts that aren't paid shit.

They also have hours that are hellacious indeed.