There is no tie. They play the regulation time. If there is no winner, they add two 15 minute periods. If it is still tied, then they do a shootout - first to 5. If it is still tied, they go one one one until a winner happens.

Two OT periods of 15 mins. If still tied it goes to penalty kicks. A goal in extra time does not automatically make that team the winner they play the full time.

If it goes to overtime, two 15 minute halves. If it’s still tied, it goes to penalty kicks. It’s not golden goal, so it’s not like first person to score in the overtime wins, they play the full 30.

BWillie watches a lot of other sports and is still known for having terrible takes.

No ties at this point. It's going to be really fun here on out.

I am glad they got rude about of golden goal .

No they lost so they have to pick one person from their family to get stoned to death. Only get goats if you win

Would be fun to look into a crystal ball and see what these guys can put together for 2026

I've always wondered if there's not a defensive strategy to 'force' an offsides call.

I mean, if the 'back' defender rushes forward as the ball is being played, could he not effectively wreck the play? And because of that, doesn't it take a TON of starch out of the possible run? Afterall, it would seem to make a hard crash from the forward all but impossible when you have to worry about the defender 'creating' an offsides.

Is there a "no, your defenseman was a dipshit and ran himself out of the play" exception to this rule?

It's the biggest struggle I've had with soccer rules. You can know enough about hockey for most of soccer to make sense, but an offsides being determined by a moving target has always been tough to wrap my head around.

Was it 02 or something when South Korea hosted and went on a monster run?

That could be us

yes it's called an offside trap, where the backline pushes up quckly to try and catch the forward off. the risk is that if it doesn't work, you can let the attackers in behind you.

I mean, it's a strategy, but it's hard as hell to execute perfectly AND egregious enough such that the offside is FOR SURE called. Otherwise, you're giving up a goal, most likely.

Do we know what time Saturday

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Who was in at the 9 at the end? With like 45 seconds left in stoppage he was passed the ball and took a lame shot right at the keeper (he wasn't in an ideal place to score). Why not dribble to the corner and kill the clock? At worst you earn an out-of-bounds or a corner. Anyone else frustrated by that lack of game awareness?

Yeah, I figured it would need to be an 'oh shit' kind of play if you see that you're probably screwed here so rather than even attempt to defend the play, you try to force the foul.

It seems way to risky to just bust it out on occasion (and the risk wouldn't seem to justify the reward). But it seemed like there could be situations where your defense has completely broken down and rather than try to fend off a 2 on 1 or something, you just try to book it clear of that forwardmost player and at worst, force him to stop his run.

I dunno - there's probably a practical reason why this is not done all that often. But even with that possibility in play, I would think it REALLY hampers offense.

Wright, I believe.

And yeah, that seemed like a ball he definitely should've taken to the corner. Even I kinda understood that was a bit of a vaporlock.

Have they said what he suffered? I know it was "an abdominal injury", but I'm not sure what that means. And, UGH (!!!!), I don't have replay ability anymore...

I think the hospital trip was out of caution because he had some dizziness. As far as the real injury who knows. Seems and though.

9am CST

Yeah, that was a selfish play. His teammates and coach need to have a chat with him about doing that.

Sucks for Pulisic if he's injured. He's always been talented but too much of a brokedick with his injuries (no pun intended).

Yeah. We used to try offsides traps a lot in high school,but it takes a ton of coordination and trust in teammates to pull off. If one lazy bum is slow to push then it ruins the whole thing and you get wrecked by attackers pouring behind you with a head of steam

Excellent, be done right at kickoff for Big12 Championship. I might be a little loaded by mid afternoon

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The ball becomes the offside line if say 2 players are alone with the goalie , which really ticks up kids , also no offsides on throw ins and corners, unless you go short then offsides cone back into play .

Offside traps we’ll coordinated can work but one missed timed one and you are screwed.

He seemed to finish the half from what I understand as I missed the first half due to meetings. If that’s the case I doubt it’s anything too serious.

Meh, I'll still have to watch it on the phone because we'll have to leave for the game pretty early. Maybe I should plan on getting there super early and just sitting in the stadium and watching on the phone.

Yeah, it looked like a direct blow from the knee type thing rather than a muscular type injury.

It is a pretty common strategy for the back line to move up forcing players offside just before the pass is sent.

The exception is usually more of a "one of you defenders was too stupid to step up with his back line ruining the offside trap and giving the other team a breakaway"

Sounds like it was an injury to the balls. So he should be ok.

But will be no handballs tonight

****ing program increment planning at work this week so only got to see the last 20 minutes or so. Was a dang exciting ending to the match.

Congrats USMNT, well done.

Proud of the guys for the effort! Let's see what they can do Saturday. House money. This really sets up nicely for North America's Cup in 4 years.

Offsides trap is more of a strategic mentality than a situational gambit.

Teams with solid defense will shrink the field by keeping their defenders forward, so that counterattacks have to start nearer midfield due to offsides offences.

Or even in the defensive third, they will coordinate pushing forward to minimize the space the offense has to work with. Push up to the 18, or push up to the top of the arc, every time the ball recedes to between the arc and midline.

But if you 'try it' situationally, you not only have to leap forward right when the ball is struck, but you have to have the situational awareness to know you are in fact the 2nd to last defender.

Would really suck to give up a cheap goal because you tried to force the defender offsides all by yourself, only to find there was another player way out on the wings, possibly behind your back, that mooted your effort and give the opposition a free barrage on your goalie all by himself.

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Bet he plays.

When I first saw the play I thought it was some weird groin thing.

Does anyone know the recovery period for an injury like this?

Every game from here on out is one of the biggest in our history. We were definitely the favorites with England to get out of the group so this result is still not enough for me. If we want to show we are at the next level I want to at least go blow for blow with the Netherlands on Saturday and make it an entertaining match. We HAVE to finish. There were some moments in the first half that we really let slip through our fingers and we can’t do that against the Netherlands. Chances will be few and far between and we have to finish.

So happy to see Pulisic get his moment at such a big time. Sad to see it immediately followed by an injury that has us worrying about his status. Pretty much sums up his career so far, though. Womble and some others may act like he’s played his way out of the starting lineup, but his injuries are what cost him his starting job at Chelsea. Tuchel didn’t ever trust his fitness and that’s a fair assessment, but when healthy he’s definitely able to show his ability to be a world class player. Teams don’t pay $73 million transfer fees for ordinary players. Hope he gets healthy soon. Would obviously be a huge blow to not have him out there against the Netherlands. Aaronson did a good job filling in at LW, though, I thought.

For what it’s worth. The winner of the game Saturday will play the winner of Group C winner and Group D 2nd place. That matchup will be decided tomorrow. If both games were to end in a tie it would be Poland vs Australia. Argentina (3rd) are better than Poland (26th) and Denmark (10) are better than Australia (38th) so both teams will be playing for the wins so tomorrows matchups should be fun. Mexico will also be trying to sneak back in with what will likely take a huge win vs Saudi Arabia. Lots of rooting interests for tomorrows matchups.

We still discussing the offside rule in here?

It's a bone bruise. All about pain tolerance and management. He will play but if he gets any trauma to that area while playing he is going to be hurting a lot.

Aren't you british? You should know this game has laws and not rules. :D

Didn't he get kicked in the nuts? Give him a frozen bag of peas and he'll be good to go. :thumb:

Need to send Bill to Qatar to suck him off right quick

US can be so much more dynamic than they have been. They have not been great with medium range passes and interplay within the final third especially close to the goal. I think we will be ok putting away good chances but I worry about us creating truly good chances. They are good at creating danger but it does not always lead to a quality chance.

The only rule I know is of my King and I can tell you that he'd be doing a better job at it than Biden and his succubus AOC.

PS it's a draw not a 'tie'

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LMAO

You started off so hot in this thread talking that shit left and right now look at you.

You talk in British accent in this thread, and American in all other threads. You’re a poser.

Where’s the pic from? Twitter?

We are easy group winners and facing Senegal. You are likely facing elimination against Holland. Not sure how this has taken a turn?

Got any examples lad? I use the correct terminology for American Football because I'm not an ignoramus.

He has his flaws but Berhalter has done everything we have asked of him.

- Beat Mexico
- Qualify for the World Cup
- Get to the knockout round
- Play the youth

A lot of people do not like *how* he got there but that is there problem to deal with.

I would hope so, it's a bruise. Take the needle buddy.

A squash would be doing a better job. ROFL

On AOC - I would though. You would too, honestly.

Poor Ocotillo mad as hell because Berhalter has already done more than Jurgen as you jerk off to hooligan and ultra videos.

Would you be more comfortable with our situation right now if we let Mexico walk all over us and started fights in the street for no god damn reason? ROFL

One could go for Succubus Sandy. I think most here would also. :evil:

I read that England used to call it soccer. America called it soccer and you wankers didn't want to be like the country that defeated you in all the wars or saved you in all the wars so you started calling it football. Is this true? Thank you and I'll listen off the air.

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Yeah I don't disagree with you on most of those ideas. And for sure who you are arguing with dictates the tone you had. I think you know though that my point is that if people are talking about what could make the sport better, there are ways. Your original post came off like the sport is perfect. Or at least read that way.

What's the deal with set pieces? I feel like we used to always be good at them but now with this generation we aren't. Is that a coaching or that this group just doesn't have the skill set for it? Pulisic doesn't seem to be great at his services. I know they keep talking about the coach they brought in. I guess guys like Altidore had an impact on it.

I think it was such a mainstay of American soccer for so long because we had to out muscle or our athlete teams to win whereas now we have more traditional soccer players so set pieces don't seem to be as much of a focus for better or for worse.

With my work schedule I have not been able to watch these games as closely as I would have liked it feels like our service is ok but we have not done a great job getting at the other end of them.

Would be fun to see what the ceiling of this team is if they ever find a striker.

Mussh is going to be a star…more than he already is.

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Hopefully in 4 years. Pepi could have blown up by then.

Please Romper this idiot

And this idiot has been here long enough he should know the rules.

Yeah it’s called your post history/profile.

About 5 minutes for a normal person.

3-5 weeks for a soccer player.

I watched today. The game itself was very watchable.

I just don't get the histrionics every time someone gets touched. The one Iranian dude toward the end who went down in the corner like he got hit in the head by a sniper bullet and started screaming and flopping around and then got up 30 seconds later...wtf is that? Why do they all do that so often? Trying to draw a foul or a card I get, but when they see the ref isn't going to call it why do they flop around like drama queens for the next 5 minutes? Rest? I seriously want to know - because it kinda ruins it for me tbh.

Yeah that would be great. They've had a few young kids cycle through with high upside and so far nobody has taken the reigns. Understandable with some of them being so young.

Yes and no, from my experience it’s all a secondary game on its own. This year is a lot better because of the added stoppage at the end but the last 10-15 minutes is the same as it was back in the early 2000’s…

I don’t fault anyone for hating on the flopping, even European fans hate that garbage which is why I think fifa implemented this new rule.

It's a stain on the sport. That was a really exciting game today and that ridiculousness detracted from it - at least for me. There's got to be something they can do. Make a guy sit if he's down for 30 seconds? Anything.

Until the referees stop placating it, it won’t change.

This is why I love Adams and Aaronson. They don’t ever flop.

Watch the England vs USA game and then watch Italy play Brazil. Night and day.

Neymar never flops

/sarcasm

They should be penalized for flopping. If they were, they would stop doing it. College basketball has been enforcing an auto technical foul, no warning this year on flops and it's really starting to clean up the game.

So this is one law in the game the really could update. The current law says that:

attempts to deceive the referee by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)" must be sanctioned as unsporting behavior which is misconduct punishable by a yellow card.

So if the referee does whistle this then they are mandated to issue a yellow. No players would finish a game if all the dives/flops are called.

They should update this so that it can be called without the mandated yellow.

As it is the referee must use their judgement on if the flop impacted the ability for the opposing team to play the ball or not. Most often just wave the player up or verbally call him out.

Agree with this completely. Referees view this as part of the game way too much. Start handing out yellows and this bullshit will end quickly. Especially in the box. Watch a full slate of games in the premier league on a given weekend, you will see dudes flopping when if they played through the whistle they could have scored or prevented a score.

The heat gonna be real interesting with overtimes. Especially since usa seems to love ties and close games. I hope we are better prepared having played in some sweltering heat in southern countries. Though a lot of our players have mostly trained in Europe. In either event it seems like it’s hurting European teams which maybe is good for us. Apart from getting gassed vs wales we seem to keep good energy in the latter stages

I did earlier in this thread

Really disagree with us getting gassed against wales. Wales players are ancient and we are the second youngest team in the World Cup. Take away Tim Ream (which I don’t want to) we are the youngest team. Two of our most important players play for Leeds and and high press every match. We didn’t get gassed. We got Kim Anderson’d.

Kim Anderson was a historically bad coach for Mizzou if you don’t know. Like…rewrite the record books bad.

We were bad in 2H versus Wales because GB went into a shell. We stopped pushing and tried to defend without an attacking mindset. Saw it today against Iran.

We need to let our midfield play, which surprisingly, has been one of the best this cup.