ChiefsPlanet - Cardinals "Official" 2011 St. Louis Cardinals Thread

I like Bumgarner more than Garcia because he can go deep into games, his frame projects for longevity, his fastball has more veolcity, and he has more pitches in his arsenal.

Oh, and the argument that he's a product of Pac Bell is complete bullshit. Look at his Home/Away splits this year. His road ERA is half of what it is at home.

He's also 21 years old.

Jaime has more IP so far this season(same amount of starts) and a lower WHIP than Bumgarner.

And I don't know if you're thinking that Colby=Bumgarner, but if you are, that's crazy.

BigRedChief

07-16-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7751942)

so???? Who are you willing to give up for Bumgarner?

OnTheWarpath15

07-16-2011 07:26 PM

Christ, what DOESN'T this team need?

SP, RP and they need a SS something ****ing FIERCE.

Another error.

Hang in there, Carp.

OnTheWarpath15

07-16-2011 07:33 PM

Jesus.

THREE errors.

Why the **** is Punto playing 3rd?

Rams Fan

07-16-2011 07:34 PM

Come on Carp, get us to the top of the 9th.

OnTheWarpath15

07-16-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7752430)

Come on Carp, get us to the top of the 9th.

Done.

Rams Fan

07-16-2011 07:37 PM

Chris ****ing Carpenter, everybody.

Rams Fan

07-16-2011 07:38 PM

I'm slowly starting to lean towards the Cards picking up Carp's option for next year.

OnTheWarpath15

07-16-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7752447)

I'm slowly starting to lean towards the Cards picking up Carp's option for next year.

Same here.

Outside of start or two, he's been pretty ****ing solid.

Dude's been getting next to no run support.

Rams Fan

07-16-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7752457)

Same here.

Outside of start or two, he's been pretty ****ing solid.

Dude's been getting next to no run support.

Yeah. The only thing early in the season that was above his career average was his ERA and I think his BABIP.

I want Carp to be back here, but I think if they restructured the option(10 mil. guaranteed, up to 15 mil. if he hits certain escalators in his contract), it would be a win-win for both sides.

OnTheWarpath15

07-16-2011 07:49 PM

Alright, Salas. Try not to step on your own dick tonight.

Rams Fan

07-16-2011 07:50 PM

I wonder if the Cardinals could handle a payroll of 120 mil.

OnTheWarpath15

07-16-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7752477)

I wonder if the Cardinals could handle a payroll of 120 mil.

**** yeah they could.

They wouldn't choose to, however.

Rams Fan

07-16-2011 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7752483)

**** yeah they could.

They wouldn't choose to, however.

They're at 108 mil. right now.

If they keep Berkman, Albert and Carp, I'm guessing it would be around 120 mil.

I expect Waino to have his options picked up or reworked.

Pasta Little Brioni

07-16-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7752477)

I wonder if the Cardinals could handle a payroll of 120 mil.

Yes, and I fully expect them to. Complete bullshit if they try the woe is me crap.

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