I really hate that they're making this, because Bethesda shits gold for me, and if they follow their gold-shitting pattern, my life is going to be ruined because of this.

JUST MAKE A NEW FALLOUT HURRY

Was a rumor they're working on one for next gen.

Saw the trailer earlier, it looks like every bethesda game I've played for the last five years: really pretty, no substance. I'll sign up for the beta anyway, cause I like free.

Hey, just out of curiosity how do you rank your top 5 RPGs (MMOs or SP)?

Are all 5 made by BioWare?

I can't just list 5, these are basically all equally favorite, with Torment, BG and KoTOR being the top and the rest being a notch below.

1) Planescape: Torment - Black Isle
2) Baldur's Gate 1/2 - Bioware
3) Knights of the Old Republic 1/2 - Bioware/Obsidian
4) Fallout 1/2 - Interplay
5) System Shock 2 - Irrational Games
6) Mass Effect 1/2/3 - Bioware
7) Deus Ex - Ion Storm
8) Icewind Dale 1/2 - Black Isle
9) TES 3: Morrowind - Bethesda
10) Neverwinter Nights 1/2 - Bioware/Obsidian

I haven't always been anti-bethesda. I played the living shit out of Morrowind. Hundreds and hundreds of hours. Oblivion and Fallout 3 both lost me between 20 and 30 hours in. I've been told Skyrim is worth playing, maybe someday when it's really cheap. I think as I get older, though, open world games interest me less and less, I need story over character building and grinding, so I don't expect I'll get into it.

I think the best trailer I saw today was for Heart of the Swarm (the opening cinematic for the SC2 expansion, it was pretty awesome).

That's a kickass list, man. I enjoy a good rat-race grind myself but those don't come close to a story like say KOTOR or Mass Effect for me. Anyway, maybe one day someone will be able to come out with a game that incorporates both, but that might require a prohibitively long development, so probably not. :)

I am planning on giving ES Online a go though, because I always seem to enjoy Bethesda games right up to the point when my character stops progressing (I've discussed this too many times before). The trailer itself was pretty epic, almost up to par with Blizzard.

SWTOR should probably go on that list, as much as I've played it. I just finished my 6th character arc (bounty hunter) and started the last two, sith warrior and sith inquisitor, this week.

Unfortunately (so far) my fear for that game has come to fruition, as they've added absolutely nothing to it story-wise in the year since release, with the exception of the quest for HK-51, which can be done in a day. Everything they're added has been raiding and PvP (well, and cartel market). Which was just adding more grinding to an endgame that was already nothing but grinding.

And I've actually done a fair bit of it, mainly dailies, space missions (they introduced new ones a month ago that have black hole comm rewards) and hard mode fps. I still haven't done any raiding yet.

The story part of it has been great for me. Playing through all the class stories, I'm online as much now as I was a year ago (which is bad, really...). I don't know how the expansion's going to be. I worry that it's going to be less than a week of new stuff and then back to the endgame grind. They've already announced there's no class story aspect to it, and everybody's chapter 4 is a faction-wide story arc, which is a disappointment, if not a surprise. There's enough to keep my sub going for another 6 months, but after that? Not sure.

Anyway, I got sidetracked, the main point was that I'm okay with a certain amount of grinding, too. There's a calming aspect to turning your brain off like that. But I don't know that Bethesda can give me enough interesting stuff outside of that to keep me invested.

I need a cheap gaming computer for ESO..

PC finally gets Dragonborn on the 5th.

PS3 DLC release dates finally announced:
Dragonborn - Feb. 12th.
Hearthfire - Feb. 19th.
Dawnguard - Feb. 26th.

Perfect timing. Dragonborn will hit about the same time I max my smithing skill, allowing me to use some of those bones I have been saving.

I checked this morning for shits and grins - I have 175 hours in right now and I am about half done with clearing the map.

It's not actually being done by Bethesda. It's being done by Zenimax Studios.

Have you ever tried playing an MMO?

I've got a couple hundred hours in the basic game now and I've decided that I probably played it wrong. I focused early on smithing, alchemy and enchanting. I ended up making better equipment for myself than anything I can find in the game. It really drained any suspense out of the battles when even the most powerful bad guys have trouble hurting me and die to a quick flurry of strikes or a couple of arrow hits.

I went about it the other way...I focused on destruction magic and archery skills. I'm only just now going back and doing smithing so I can level up. Destruction archery and sneak are all above 90, but I'm only level 52.