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Pants 02-17-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8379772)
KU is such a dominant power that they have no earthly rivals. They merely come down from the mountaintop to indulge mere mortals by playing them. KU's rivals are the gods of basketball themselves.

Butthurt as hell, man.

Saul Good 02-17-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8379829)
It's a school rivalry for sure. As far as sports go, basketball is about the opposite of a rivalry, while football is the definition of one.

Interesting considering that Kansas has never finished ahead of Mizzou in Big XII football. Can the opposite be said about basketball?

Pants 02-17-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8379859)
Interesting considering that Kansas has never finished ahead of Mizzou in Big XII football. Can the opposite be said about basketball?

Is that how rivalries are defined? We just have a different definition, I think. Can you please give me a clear definition of what you think a rivalry is? Is it the number of higher conference standings? I'm honestly curious.

Dartgod 02-17-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8379829)
It's a school rivalry for sure. As far as sports go, basketball is about the opposite of a rivalry, while football is the definition of one.

Are you claiming that Mizzou and KU do not have a rivalry in basketball, yet they do in football? :spock:

I'd love to hear your explanation.

Saul Good 02-17-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8379865)
Is that how rivalries are defined? We just have a different definition, I think. Can you please give me a clear definition of what you think a rivalry is? Is it the number of higher conference standings? I'm honestly curious.

I think it's a rivalry in both sports. Saying otherwise is stupid.

The most expensive ticket to AFH for a conference game every year is the Mizzou game, and vice versa. Not sure how you can say football is a bigger rivalry when KU brought 11 fans to the last game (ever) between the two teams.

Pants 02-17-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 8379874)
Are you claiming that Mizzou and KU do not have a rivalry in basketball, yet they do in football? :spock:

I'd love to hear your explanation.

56-55-9 is a rivalry.
171-95 is ownership.

:shrug:

DeezNutz 02-17-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 8379874)
Are you claiming that Mizzou and KU do not have a rivalry in basketball, yet they do in football? :spock:

I'd love to hear your explanation.

Series records.

So glad to be leaving the Big XII.

mnchiefsguy 02-17-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8379830)
Butthurt as hell, man.

Sarcasm, man.

Pablo 02-17-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8379886)
56-55-9 is a rivalry.
171-95 is ownership.

:shrug:

Those numbers are arrogant.

Pants 02-17-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8379909)
Sarcasm, man.

You were sarcastically being sarcastic? Whoa... my mind is blown.

Saul Good 02-17-2012 04:03 PM

National championship lines are out.

Kentucky is the favorite at 2:1

Ohio State is next at 5:1

Mizzou, Kansas, Carolina, and Syracuse are all 8:1

Pants 02-17-2012 04:05 PM

2:1? Holy shit.

Saul Good 02-17-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8380260)
2:1? Holy shit.

Your response shows what a gimmick the tourney really is. The best team in the country has a 50-50 shot at winning the title, and that seems ridiculously high.

I'd bet against them winning it.

Let's say Kentucky has a 100% chance of winning in the first and second rounds and a 90% chance of winning each game until the final four and an 80% chance each game after that (all preposterously high). They would still be only slightly better than a coin flip to win the whole thing.

If you give them only 99% in the first round and 98% in the second, it's 50%.

KC_Connection 02-17-2012 04:31 PM

Yeah, that's way too high for UK. They're the best team in the NCAA, but their chances of winning will be pretty much equivalent to any other #1 seed. The tournament equalizes things.

O.city 02-17-2012 04:39 PM

A single elimination tournament will seldom give you the best overall team as the winner, when you have to win what 6 games in a row?

It happens but not very often. Hell I'd argue that the NFL doesn't give you the two best teams in the Final.

MLB and the NBA, having best of series, IMO are the best way to get a true champion.

In all honesty the BCS does a pretty damn good job of giving us the 2 best teams over a 4 month stretch.


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