Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14341539)

While I fully understand what you're saying because of the same beliefs you say here there are many people that will refuse to admit that Hill isn't a monster.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14341543)

Why are you so worried about all these other people? It's all you've talked about for 2 days.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14341542)

ok. who wants the sneak peek.

you have to be cool and you have to SWEAR not to give out the link.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14341546)

Because that is what the NFL cares about, public perception. It's everything I hate about todays world, no one is informed, they just spew talking points and refuse to look at anything objectively.

Also the term gaslighting, I hate it.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14341542)

ok. who wants the sneak peek.

you have to be cool and you have to SWEAR not to give out the link.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14341499)

Well, those are some explosive revelations.

Everything I heard early on was based on information from Espinal’s camp. Clearly, as time has borne out, there were exaggerations and outright lies coming from that direction.

I’m guilty of following normal patterns and believing the initial reports of the alleged victim. Highly questionable at best now, and in all likelihood erroneous.

Someone hurt the kid. Someone went too far. Looks more and more likely that was the mother or someone else.

What’s particularly crappy about this whole ordeal - beyond the impacts to Tyreek Hill, who looks like a victim now and maybe even in 2014 - is that instances like this, especially public ones, just make it harder for actual victims of domestic abuse to report and be believed and get the protection and justice they deserve.

This type of outcome - where it really is a potentially crazy or imbalanced person trying to set someone up - is incredibly rare in everyday life. Occam’s razor usually applies (and can be proven).

Anyway, I’ll wear this one. My people were wrong because they were being fed some lies.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14341539)

While I fully understand what you're saying because of the same beliefs you say here there are many people that will refuse to admit that Hill isn't a monster.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14341542)

ok. who wants the sneak peek.

you have to be cool and you have to SWEAR not to give out the link.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14341636)

Sneak peek of what? That makes a big difference in my decision.

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14341611)

A lot of people fell for it.

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 14341631)

The bigger issue is some people, and they know who they are, not only proclaimed Hill guilty out of the gate but also told those who said "this doesn't sound right, we need to wait for all the facts.." that we had no clue of what we were talking about and we were just being homers and what not.

Truth is it was more than obvious that something wasn't right about this right from the off. Few bothered to question what was being reported and how.