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And there's a huge, huge difference between a $15 million payroll and $150 million. I don't think we'd have a $150 million payroll if Ewing Kauffman owned the team.

Did we have a large payroll relative to that era ? I have no idea.

Rams Fan

07-26-2015 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11620713)

You could put Scott Rolen in that category, too. At least in 2004.

2005 was the year he tried to play through the torn labrum in his left shoulder, right? I still remember watching him try to swing with that and just collapse in pain...

Yes, and that's how the legend of Abe Nunez came to be.

BigRedChief

07-26-2015 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11620678)

Your 2004 team was the best by far and they got smoked in the World Series. Baseball is a funny game.

2005 team was better, IMHO.

2006 and 2011 I bet you couldn't have found one Cardinal fan to say they had a chance in hell of winning anything in those years prior to the playoffs.

You have to have some talent. Just get into the tournament and then get hot.

ChiefsCountry

07-26-2015 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11620708)

And there's a huge, huge difference between a $15 million payroll and $150 million. I don't think we'd have a $150 million payroll if Ewing Kauffman owned the team.

Hard to say with Kauffman's but more than likely no. 120 million is where the Cardinals are at, Royals are at 110ish. We are close where we need to be.

KChiefs1

07-26-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11620700)

I think he's getting a bump from having thrown today, on the day that a lot of other good news popped up from the Royals.

Today was an encouraging step forward for Ventura. He needs to build on it and be consistent.

The biggest difference for him today was working ahead in a lot more counts. He's been falling behind a lot more often this season than he did last year, which leads to him throwing more fastballs in hitters counts, which leads to more hard contact and more contact overall, and worse results.

Duffy still concerns me because at one point in the game he had thrown 100 pitches while Feldman was at 54. Early in the game it was almost 50/50 on balls & strikes when it should be 67/33 or at least 60/40 strikes to balls.

ChiefsCountry

07-26-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11620719)

Did we have a large payroll relative to that era ? I have no idea.

1990 Royals had the largest payroll in MLB at 23 million.

tk13	07-26-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 11620717)

I'd take the '05 offense over the '13 offense, but I might be inclined to take the '13 pitching staff. I still have no clue why Shelby only pitched one inning in the POs. And Wacha was insane.

That 2005 team had peak Carpenter, plus Mulder, Morris, and a solid Marquis/Suppan at the back. That was a heck of a rotation.

Rams Fan

07-26-2015 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11620721)

2006 I thought they'd lose to the Mets at least. They were really, really, really good that year. Still have no clue how the **** they won that series.

2011 was destiny ala the '04 Red Sox.

'Hamas' Jenkins

07-26-2015 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11620713)

Yeah. 2005 Rolen was done for the year for months by the time the PS rolled around.

2006 Rolen was a sad sight as well. His shoulder was still so ****ed up that he couldn't get around on anything, and he had to cheat like hell on fastballs, the most notorious of which is the one he got hold of in Game 7 of the LCS, only for Endy Chavez to make what is probably in the short conversation for the greatest catch in postseason history in robbing him of the homerun.

For frazod, Rolen was Holliday before Holliday.

Rams Fan

07-26-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11620727)

That 2005 team had peak Carpenter, plus Mulder, Morris, and a solid Marquis/Suppan at the back. That was a heck of a rotation.

2013 team had Wainwright, rookie Wacha, rookie Shelby, Lynn, Kelly.

Marquis/Suppan were better than Morris that year.

'Hamas' Jenkins

07-26-2015 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11620727)

That 2005 team had peak Carpenter, plus Mulder, Morris, and a solid Marquis/Suppan at the back. That was a heck of a rotation.

You forget that Mark Mulder has an elephant labia for a heart.

Anyong Bluth

07-26-2015 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamwallet (Post 11620695)

Has everyone forgot we managed to spend in the top 5 every year on players until the 90's strike. The money is there. KC is spending shitloads on the the team. It can happen.

Yes baseball economics are exactly the same as 25 years ago.
Until they have a new TV contract they are significantly limited. They're still not going to transform into a Yankees or Dodgers payroll. Sustained success with continued attendance and playoff appearances could put them in a position to have a payroll in the back end of the top third to high end of the middle third.

'Hamas' Jenkins

07-26-2015 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11620731)

I was just reminded of an exchange.

This is sometime during the LCS. Rolen is hitting like absolute shit, and some scrub Mets pitcher shatters his bat on a weak groundout. I type, "I'd like to stab him in the ****ing heart with that bat shard," and frazod replied, "he'd have to have a heart first."

Oh, the joys of October baseball.

BigRedChief

07-26-2015 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11620726)

1990 Royals had the largest payroll in MLB at 23 million.

Multiple cities with BILLION$ cable TV contracts. The can pay $150-$200 Million player contracts and if they flop, no big deal. Plenty more where that came from.

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