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InChiefsHeaven 08-23-2023 10:10 AM

If losing Chris Jones means we can't win the SB this year, then we have a lot bigger problems than Chris Jones. Look I get it, it would suck if he's not here, but I'm really coming around to the idea of perspective. No one guy (save Mahomes) is worth that much to a team all by himself. If Jones were out on injury, I'd still believe we could win without him. It can't be all about one guy on the interior of the defensive line being the lynch pin to a successful season.

Perspective man. I hope he comes back, but I'm not gonna say it's all over without him. By a long shot.

ptlyon 08-23-2023 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17069084)
That's called, "we better be putting up 30+ points per game"

I like to think of it this way. What if:

A) He wasn't on the roster at all
B) He did go to training camp, and he either a) got injured until week 8, or b) did this

In either scenario, he's just not there. Like Reid says, the game goes on, and you just have to adjust. Just the way it is. Next man up, go with what you got.

ptlyon 08-23-2023 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 17069096)
If losing Chris Jones means we can't win the SB this year, then we have a lot bigger problems than Chris Jones. Look I get it, it would suck if he's not here, but I'm really coming around to the idea of perspective. No one guy (save Mahomes) is worth that much to a team all by himself. If Jones were out on injury, I'd still believe we could win without him. It can't be all about one guy on the interior of the defensive line being the lynch pin to a successful season.

Perspective man. I hope he comes back, but I'm not gonna say it's all over without him. By a long shot.

You're God damn right gif

tredadda 08-23-2023 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17069013)
So we’re ok letting an elite pass rusher go to sign a center and a guard

I’m not really sure the value checks there

Yes. I would love for KC to keep him but:

1. He appears to want more than KC should give him, especially considering the likelihood of his performance dropping during a portion of that contract.

2. The C and G are both ascending and form 2/3rds of the core of one of the best interior lines in the NFL. You probably get both of them for what Jones costs you.

I am all for paying elite pass rushers, but Veach can't just give in to the demands of Jones if he is truly being unreasonable.

DJ's left nut 08-23-2023 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17069080)
How did we get to this point LMAO

I'm standing by 'bad agent'.

He has a relatively unknown agent who's trying to use Jones to prove his value to other potential clients. And in Jones he has a willing participant.

Y'all ever watch Ballers? This is Reggie getting Vernon's ear and talking him out of signing that extension because "We have our number and that's not enough for our plans..."

tredadda 08-23-2023 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 17069026)
Pat's career could be ended with a single injury.

Having a good OL should be a high priority. Even higher as Mahomes ages.

Buffalo and Cincy both have elite QBs and I bet they would kill for our line right now.

Woogieman 08-23-2023 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 17069096)
If losing Chris Jones means we can't win the SB this year, then we have a lot bigger problems than Chris Jones. Look I get it, it would suck if he's not here, but I'm really coming around to the idea of perspective. No one guy (save Mahomes) is worth that much to a team all by himself. If Jones were out on injury, I'd still believe we could win without him. It can't be all about one guy on the interior of the defensive line being the lynch pin to a successful season.

Perspective man. I hope he comes back, but I'm not gonna say it's all over without him. By a long shot.

Even the biggest Veach detractors surely would admit by now that given $30mm in cap space to work with, and/or additional picks that he will be able to acquire young and ready talent to stay on top. If CJ's absence causes them a SB appearance in 2024, I am confident they will be in 3 of the next 5 anyway because of the Reid/Mahomes/Veach talents

tredadda 08-23-2023 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17069046)
I think the team must be thinking so.

Or they are waiting on camp cuts to see if they can snag someone. If not, Dunlap should still be there.

FlaChief58 08-23-2023 10:21 AM

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Sounds like the Chiefs are preparing for life after Jones

TribalElder 08-23-2023 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17069107)
Sounds like the Chiefs are preparing for life after Jones

came here to post that same thing

It's over

CJ ****ed this up so bad I feel awful for him

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4OiBKrX...bp&name=medium

O.city 08-23-2023 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17069083)
Jones not being on the roster makes it tougher for certain and I WANT him back at a reasonable cost, but let me ask you this.

Who are the top 5 defenses in football and how many have a truly top 5 interior defensive lineman? The answer is one of them.

SF
Dallas
Philly
Jets - *Quinton Williams
Broncos/Buffalo ?

The arguably worst defense in the NFL heading into this season, the Rams have Aaron Donald and well not much else.

I think our defense is better than advertised even without Jones as long as they stay healthy. I just think we have to figure out a way to get some good pass rush with our DE's which I believe is why we drafted DE the last 2 years.

All those defenses have elite players in the front 7.

ptlyon 08-23-2023 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 17069109)
CJ ****ed this up so bad I feel awful for him

WTF gif

O.city 08-23-2023 10:28 AM

They can have a successful season without jones.

They’d have what DJ calls a punchers chance to make some playoff noise but losing your best defender in this situation…..yeah they ain’t what they were

Urc Burry 08-23-2023 10:28 AM

Andy doesn’t get too fired up often. But if there is one thing that pisses him off, it is hold outs. Even for a day in TC

It’s pretty clear they are extremely far off, and Veach isn’t going to budge. It’s pretty clear the philosophy going forward is that as long as Mahomes is upright we have a chance. And we are going to invest heavily in the offensive line. Which is going to leave less money to make us a more complete team.

O.city 08-23-2023 10:28 AM

The shit thing is that they traded Tyreek to do this and now this happens.

Traded the wrong guy


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