Depends on our goals. If you're just trying to get in shape, it doesn't matter. If you're going for all out strength, then do cardio after.

I'm looking to drop weight first.

If your looking for increased grip strength and some forearm size, then yes.

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If you are lifting any weights, isn't the overall goal to at least get a bit stronger? I think it should be and thus, weights always before cardio even if you are trying to "get in shape" and drop weight. Cardio before weights decreases your lifting capacity much more so than weights affecting your aerobic capacity.

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I agree. Most guys can actually get to 10-12% easily through just lifting and diet, no cardio needed.

I wasn't stating that though. I do cardio from time to time, although it really doesn't have to be necessary as you stated as you can burn plenty of calories lifting and have a good diet to be in a caloric deficit....you'll drop fat. Do cardio if you want, but lifting should ALWAYS be done first. You lift weights to get stronger, so do that when you are freshest.

I know you didnt.. just wanted to throw that out cause most guys think some form of cardio or GPP is needed to get lean. Don't get me wrong, cardio is good for the heart, but I know a lot of guys that just ignore it, even when getting lean.

Yup. I'd drop 15lbs in 6 weeks before Olympic Lifting competitions and would never do a lick of cardio because it affected squat recovery way too much.

Cardio is awful. Just eat less.

Cardio is good for your heart. While lifting may burn calories faster, it's good to throw a cardio day in. Even if you're not trying to lose weight.

I've done it both ways and noticed no ill-effects from cardio before my weights.

I'm in shape, though. If I weren't in shape, I think it would be different.

EDIT: Also, you will still get stronger, even with cardio first, if that's the way you work out. You may not reach your peak strength, but everything happens on a scale with max cardio endurance at one end and max strength at the other. You can't have both, anyway, so if your goal isn't one or the other, it really shouldn't matter too much to the non-elite.