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there is still some weird shit happening with sacks and such but i think its getting better. Also I noticed in my game that the team i was playing completed a 14 yard pass and i was penalized for defensive holding and they accepted the penalty over taking the 14 yards and a first down. Also, towards the end of the game i had a sack for -4 yards and they were called for holding on the same play that we accepted. I feel like most coaches would decline that penalty over 6 yards but who knows

DJ's left nut

12-05-2019 09:07 AM

There's also a CRAZY number of negative passing plays. I probably have 2-3 passes every game for negative yards. I don't know if that's some kind of product of my gameplans or not, but I feel like my opponents are getting them as well.

Or maybe I just don't recognize how often they happen IRL...

wheeler08

12-05-2019 09:09 AM

I had almost as many Td's as I had first downs, 5 to 8. Thats pretty impressive or sad, what is sad is my 1-8 3rd down rate. Is there a place in game plan that would lean toward your RB's getting more passes thrown their way? Or is it just blind luck with RB on field and you pick more passing over running?

wheeler08

12-05-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14635032)

Yea I see it a lot in my games. What sucks even worse is when its a negative pass play, coupled with a holding call

MagicHef

12-05-2019 09:27 AM

Rivers spiked the ball to stop the clock on the opponent's 24 yard line with 1:45 left in the half. Not sure I would have made that call.

DJ's left nut

12-05-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14635035)

3rd down rate is just awfully tough to get a handle on. You can try to shift some stuff on 2nd downs to make 3rd downs more manageable or you can try to radically alter your 3rd downs specifically but even that could just yield some small sample size problems that don't mean much.

I dunno; gonna take some cipherin' there to figure out because if I don't, it'll keep me out of the post-season as divisional play gets here.

Hammock Parties

12-05-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 14635019)

Clay was so excited for Josh Gordon and he was the only WR in the game to drop a pass...2 actually....

He'll produce. 18 YPC with Evans and Kelce drawing coverage.

Big plays coming. Or the sim is broken.

DJ's left nut

12-05-2019 11:19 AM

Okay, so I've figured Vail out.

The problem is that I don't intend to actually react to it yet. Before I adjust to what they're doing specifically, I need to see how they handle what I'm doing.

I suspect I'm going to lose this game and potentially badly. But I need to confirm a thesis here before I take them on again later in the season.

The issues is that this particular phenomenon can't be real. It's never been real EVER in football history. And more to the point, it's never even been close to real let alone as real AND as extreme as it's been for Vail. This has to level out over time because it's an impossible outcome.

We shall see.

(CD, if you're at all interested, I can PM you what may just be sample size noise but I figure I don't need to go laying out EVERYTHING for these ignorant masses...)

Rain Man

12-05-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 14635083)

Rivers spiked the ball to stop the clock on the opponent's 24 yard line with 1:45 left in the half. Not sure I would have made that call.

What was the down and distance and score?

(And also, maybe the sim accounts for the fact that Rivers always screws up in those situations. Heh-heh.)

MagicHef

12-05-2019 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14635283)

What was the down and distance and score?

(And also, maybe the sim accounts for the fact that Rivers always screws up in those situations. Heh-heh.)

1st and 10, up 17-3.

1:45 is a long time to go 24 yards, and I ended up kicking a FG when I ran out of downs and kicked back to Carson City with 1:07 left in the 2nd quarter.

ThaVirus

12-05-2019 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14635015)

Not sure why you got away from the run.

Your first two drives yielded a FG and then a march into my territory before a big 4th down conversion that would've taken you at/near the red zone was wiped out by penalty. You were moving the ball a little bit (though it wasn't easy).

And in those 2 drives you ran the ball 9 times. You had all of 13 carries the rest of the game. It's not as though that game was ever out of hand. Late in the 3rd you had the ball at my 32 in a 10-6 game with a chance to take the lead (thank you, Derwin James - for the sack that pushed you out of FG range and forced a punt that changed that game).

It looks to be a classic case of coaching impatience. The yards weren't coming in chunks, but they WERE coming. And your coach just decided to put the ball in Mitch Trubisky's hands for some odd reason...

I’d prefer to lean on the ground game a bit more and take the game out of Trubisky’s hands, but they’ve not been efficient on the whole this season. I think we’re under 4 YPC.

It was a good game, though. Nice defensive effort on both sides. I really thought Trubs would come through in the end. He was ****ing dealing on those last couple drives, under pressure and everything. Then he threw that backbreaking INT.

ThaVirus

12-05-2019 12:48 PM

Aside from obviously needing an offensive talent infusion and a complete game planning overhaul, I think Miami has just been on the wrong end of a few splash plays. We’re waaayyyy negative on the turnover margin in this young season and I think that’s probably the biggest reason we’ve got three losses by a combined 10 points.

Hopefully we can start getting some lucky breaks to fall our way and dig ourselves out of this hole.

wheeler08

12-05-2019 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 14635083)

Rivers spiked the ball to stop the clock on the opponent's 24 yard line with 1:45 left in the half. Not sure I would have made that call.

I had same thing happen last week. Only I burned timeouts like crazy. Gave the other team the ball back with 1:30 left. They scored before half. Andy Reid runs this sim!

DJ's left nut

12-05-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14635463)

That drive that started at the end of the 3rd for you was just a cakewalk. We had a shot at finishing the game on 3rd and 10 in your own territory. But then you picked up 9 to make the 4th down decision easy and it was off to the races.

That's a 20-6 final score if we can force an incompletion on that 3rd down but Mitch came through for you and made a game of it.

Titty Meat

12-05-2019 03:18 PM

My defense especially the secondary is slept on. I wish I knew we were simming last weds I could have set my gameplan and possibly be 3-1.

Oh well

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