Shit, the way things have gone for Atlanta this year, I say it's a stone cold lock we pick 4th.

I knew I was wrong when I posted this about the 5th pick. I just couldn't remember who was excluded. It was Oakland. The loop should be coming up on NFL network for anyone interested. They can confirm this. I guess Oakland got the official last place finish this year. I guess that's a positive for us not getting a shot at the 3.

Flopnuts, BadGuy and Bowser:

Let me run trough it one more time.

Miami gets the first 1-15
StL get the second. 3-13

Now Oakland, us and Atlanta are tied for the third with the same record (4-12) and the same SOS.

We have to break the tie with Oakland first, since we are in the same divsion.

Oakland must pick before us because they win the division tiebreaker (an 11 step procedure) based on KC having a stronger record against common opponents. Therefore KC cannot pick before Oakland.

Now who should pick first between Oakland and Atlanta. Here the tiebreaker is a coin flip since Atlanta and Oakland are not in the same conference or the same division.

If Atlanta wins the coin flip they will pick 3rd. Oakland will pick 4th because the have to pick before KC. And we will pick 5th.

If Oakland wins the coin flip agains Atlanta, they will pick 3rd. Who picks 4th and 5th? Again we would need a coin flip between KC and Atlanta to determine this.

CD,

I answered my own question from my PM earlier in this thread.

Disregard.

Thanks for doing this, BTW.

Got it. Thanks for being patient and explaining this again and again.

I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying if you finish last in your division, that should be enough to get the higher pick if SOS is tied.

Regardless, the Raiders will take McFadden and I bet the Falcons take a QB so it doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things.

If Dorsey and Long go 1-2, this is going to suck.

It is.

We didn't finish last.

http://www.nfl.com/standings

If what the NFL network is reporting is holds up, I got it right and beat the NFL network by 6 hours.

Atlanta Journal Constitution - wrong

Lenny - wrong

Mitch - wrong

KC Metro Sports - wrong

Yep.

Good work.

[Pat on back] There, there... Go get 'em tiger! [/Pat on back]

Seriously though, nice job.

I hope you're right about the Raiders picking DMc and Atlanta taking a QB. That'd simplify our pick depending upon who goes 1st overall. kinda puts Jake Long in our lap unless Miami doesn't take Dorsey then he's in our lap. I'd like the latter because they'll be good value at OT in the 2nd round.

PhilFree:arrow:

I can't see the Rams passing up Dorsey or Long.

Pray Miami takes a QB.

Ok.


ESPN Sportscenter is now reporting that 3 4 and 5 will be decided by tiebreakers tomorrow between Atl. Oak. and KC. ESPN is reporting that KC could still be picking 3rd, and Oak could be picking 5th.

Al Davis will have a COW (and rightly so) if KC drafts before Oakland.

I appreciate you being so patient with this, and explaining it for me. That said, and I want to make sure you understand, I mean no disrespect to you personally what so ever, I hope you are wrong as a mother****er!!!! :)