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Mecca 04-05-2010 06:25 PM

Yes getting beaten out by a HOFer is much the same as getting beaten out by the dude you are suppose to beat out that was ranked about 50 spots lower than you on the recruiting list.

Same shit there.

Mr. Laz 04-05-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6654196)
And we can see how much money we can lock into the QB position.

uncapped year ... this is the year to do it.

get ahead of the QB position for once and start building it up instead of scrambling for someone who can take a snap and not trip over his own feet.

KCChiefsMan 04-05-2010 06:26 PM

with the power of hindsight. I would much prefer Mark Sanchez/ Rey Maualuga or Jairus Byrd then Tyson Jackson and Matt Cassel/Vrabel

actually a lot of those 2nd round picks are looking pretty good

Mecca 04-05-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 6654204)
with the power of hindsight. I would much prefer Mark Sanchez/ Rey Maualuga or Jairus Byrd then Tyson Jackson and Matt Cassel/Vrabel

actually a lot of those 2nd round picks are looking pretty good

Numerous people said Sanchez/Maualuga at the time of the draft, so that isn't even hindsight.

RedThat 04-05-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 6654200)
Dorsey improved immensely in his 2nd season and fit or no fit if he continues to develop (with Crennel on board highly likely) KC would be foolish to trade him at this point.

Like I was mentioning earlier, if they can improve that position with a better player and get great value in return for him, then I don't see anything wrong with that move.

MoreLemonPledge 04-05-2010 06:28 PM

Sanchez would have been completely atrocious on the Chiefs last year.

SAUTO 04-05-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6654070)
Leinart, who won the Heisman, was the 3rd string QB. Cassel was SO great at QB that he played TE and WR.

you keep harping on that 3rd string. why? palmer was 1, cassel 2, and leinart 3, when palmer left leinart beat out cassel and then won a heisman, was runner up on another and how many titles did they win?? yeah lets knock a guy for that
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DeezNutz 04-05-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6654213)
Sanchez would have been completely atrocious on the Chiefs last year.

Because he would have HAD to have played week one or even week 17.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-05-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6654207)
Like I was mentioning earlier, if they can improve that position with a better player and get great value in return for him, then I don't see anything wrong with that move.

How about we improve the secondary by drafting Berry or the QB position with Claussen. I like both of those choices infintely more then another damn 3-4 end. I would love to have Suh if they would move to a 4-3, but that isn't happening.

DeezNutz 04-05-2010 06:31 PM

When measuring a QB prospect, the most important quality is how well he'd be able to do in year one.

Mecca 04-05-2010 06:31 PM

Because people that wanted Sanchez cared how good he was right out of the gate.

Trading for a 28 year old QB puts different win now parameters on a move than drafting a QB top 5 does.

It's not the same situation at all.

SAUTO 04-05-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6654162)
He had his chance to start for one of the best college programs in the nation that was right at the beginning of it's turn around, it would have made his career and he folded and was content to ride the pine.

This is the guy that's suppose to lead our franchise?

so a qb who will play te or wr to get on the field is now " content to ride the pine"?
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SAUTO 04-05-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6654191)
imo taking Clausen doesn't mean Cassel is done ... it just means we finally have a legit QBotF. Cassel will still have every chance to hold off the youngster for as long as he can.

the way it should be imo

i agree
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Bane 04-05-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6654203)
uncapped year ... this is the year to do it.

get ahead of the QB position for once and start building it up instead of scrambling for someone who can take a snap and not trip over his own feet.

Bing Bing Bing!!!!!!!!!!
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RedThat 04-05-2010 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 6654217)
How about we improve the secondary by drafting Berry or the QB position with Claussen. I like both of those choices infintely more then another damn 3-4 end. I would love to have Suh if they would move to a 4-3, but that isn't happening.

I like Berry. And if the Chiefs pick him w/o addressing other areas of need like OLB, ILB, and/or NT I'd still expect their defense to suck.

Don't get me wrong, Berry will help, but the key weaknesses to our defense last year was that we both sucked against the pass and the run. And safety or no safety, I don't give damn who you got back there, if you can't get to the quarterback or stop the run you ain't fielding a good defense. Bottomline.

I'd be happy w/ Berry. But Id pissed if the chiefs didn't get another OLB to go w/ him and at least one or two ILB's or a NT.

Im a firm believer in a good front 7. Chiefs severly lack talent upfront on defense. And also OL. If you have those two components, everyone elses job on the team is a heck of a lot easier and your team can do more things by being creative.

*But Im just being me. Stating my opinion. I feel that linemen have a lot more value than other positions. Thats just me bro. I just think linemen and linebackers set more of an importance and serve as better examples out there that overall make your team better.


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