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Hootie 01-20-2011 09:00 AM

Cassel doesn't "shit his pants" under pressure...he just isn't very good. He takes his hits like a man.

siberian khatru 01-20-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7370888)
There are two undeniable facts:

1.) The Pro Bowl is a joke.

2.) Cassel had a good regular-season, better than most of the other QBs this year.

After that, it's all varying opinions. Here's mine.

When it comes to quarterbacking, it's one of the positions where the intangibles matter more than the stat sheet. There are plenty of QBs who had the physical tools (Jeff George) but not the mental ones. There are plenty of QBs who had the mental tools (Chad Pennington) but not the physical ones. The QBs who manage to survive in the NFL are the ones who can bring out enough of both, and do it enough times. But the QBs who become memorialized in Canton are the ones who can bring it out when it matters most. This is why Brady is going in, even though his play in the big games has gone downhill recently. This is also why, as much as I despise Rapistberger as a person, he's shown to be a top-tier NFL quarterback, because he's getting it done. And it's also why I give grudging respect to that turd Mark Sanchez, because while his stats are abysmal he somehow keeps winning when it matters (but I'm not saying he's a "good" QB just yet).

Cassel is what he is: a guy who was a late bloomer, who has had a total of THREE years as a starting NFL quarterback. In his first year, with a very solid team, he led them to 11 wins and in any other season would've made the playoffs. In his second year, with a pretty bad team and new surroundings/systems, he didn't do a whole lot. In his third year, with a better team and more familiarity, he led them to 10 wins and a playoff spot. He is neither Canton-bound nor, at this point, can anyone say he is an awful failure. He really can still go either way. But chances are he's simply one of the 80% of solid NFL quarterbacks who are just good enough to win and also just good enough to fail (like Jeff Hostetler, Phil Simms, Trent Dilfer, Mark Brunell, and about a billion other quarterbacks). He's not going to make the Chiefs win games on his own. He's not Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Vick, or Rodgers. He's not so awful that the Chiefs need to cut him and start over. But he's not so amazing that the Chiefs don't need to keep looking for the "next great QB". I don't see them using a 1 or a 2 on a QB, but I can see them using a pick in the 3rd through 5th round maybe to grab a developmental guy to put behind Cassel (if they don't think Palko is that guy).

Green box for you.

Hootie 01-20-2011 09:18 AM

I see Cassel as a Brady clone...

he'd be pretty good if he knew what the defense was going to do every time (spygate)...and now that he doesn't know he'll probably never win in the playoffs.

the Talking Can 01-20-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 7370950)
I see Cassel as a Brady clone...


keep riding that reeruned horse....

ChiefsCountry 01-20-2011 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 7370950)
I see Cassel as a Brady clone...

STFU

Hootie 01-20-2011 09:26 AM

I was trying to rile up the Patriots troll n00bs JFC

Hootie 01-20-2011 09:27 AM

but good job quoting the first part and not the second part where I was clearly slamming Brady for being a postseason choker now that he doesn't know what the defense is doing every play

Rasputin 01-20-2011 09:30 AM

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SenselessChiefsFan 01-20-2011 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7370099)
What would Matt Cassel do if it wasn't for Brady injuries?

What would Kurt Warner have been without Trent Green's injury?

Tribal Warfare 01-20-2011 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7371059)
What would Kurt Warner have been without Trent Green's injury?

probably the starter for KC

SenselessChiefsFan 01-20-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7371064)
probably the starter for KC

How different things would have been.... Green may not have won a Super Bowl. DV may not have retired. Warner may have never gotten his opportunity. DV may have never came to KC. Who knows how that injury affected different drafts and how different players may have went to different teams based on a Ram's team drafting earlier, and with different needs.

It really is amazing how single events like an injury can change the entire course of one team, but also many other teams that we can't even imagine.

Mr. Laz 01-20-2011 10:57 AM

Cassel to replace Brady in Pro Bowl

http://810whb.com/images/article_images/5691.png Even though he's in Kansas City, Matt Cassel will be filling in for an injured Tom Brady.
The New England Patriots quarterback is expected to have surgery on his foot Thursday morning in Boston, and the lingering injury will prevent Brady from playing in the Pro Bowl on Jan. 30, SportsCenter 5's Mike Lynch reported.

A stress fracture in Brady's right foot will keep him from playing in the game at Aloha Stadium in Honolulu. He will be replaced by Cassel of the Kansas City Chiefs, Lynch reported.

Brady is expected to have the surgery on his foot on Thursday at Massachusetts General Hospital. The operation will be performed by Dr. George Theodore, Lynch reported.

Brady was listed on the Patriots' injury report with a foot injury for the last eight regular-season games and its playoff game but played in all of them. He also was listed with a right shoulder injury in those games, as he has been for several years.

He is coming off an outstanding season that could net him his second NFL MVP award. He threw for 3,900 yards and led the league in passer rating, touchdown passes (36) and fewest interceptions (four).

New England went 14-2 during the regular season and had home-field advantage for the AFC playoffs, but lost 28-21 to the New York Jets last Sunday.

Brady's foot injury first was listed on the injury report after the Patriots' 34-14 loss at Cleveland on Nov. 7, New England's final regular-season loss. He missed six practices for the last eight regular-season games and didn't participate fully in any of the others. He was listed as questionable once and probable for the other seven.

After a bye week, Brady participated fully in all three practices leading up to the playoff game against the Jets. But he had one of his worst performances of the season in that game, throwing his first interception in 12 games and being sacked five times. He completed 29 of 45 passes for 299 yards and two touchdowns.

Brady also had season-ending surgery after he injured his left knee in the opening game of the 2008 season. He played in every game in the 2009 season despite having hand and rib injuries for much of the second half of the year.

keg in kc 01-20-2011 11:20 AM

Whaa?

Poor Hali. Even Cassel gets to go.

Chiefnj2 01-20-2011 11:34 AM

I'm glad Hali's not going. With KC's luck, he'd go and get injured. No football, no basketball, no mopeds; just sign a contract extension.

Frazod 01-20-2011 11:36 AM

Cool. Let's hope he doesn't suck.


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