Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8162928)

I tell you what, how about we put up a permaban wager:

You tell me how tries to play QB equals "is a good QB". Present your case to the jury. Persuade them and I'll kick off. Fail and leave.

Fair enough?

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8162995)

Could you guys imagine Dick Vermiel coming back in as the coach with this defense and tools already in place on offense?

I think we would be deep in the playoffs next year...even with Orton.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8162898)

Snowy conditions = winter football.

Frozen ball
windy

stuff Barkley hasnt had to deal with (very much, if at all) while playing on the west coast.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8162928)

I tell you what, how about we put up a permaban wager:

You tell me how tries to play QB equals "is a good QB". Present your case to the jury. Persuade them and I'll kick off. Fail and leave.

Fair enough?

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8162545)

This thread has taken a turn for the bizarre, and I disagree with Boss's analysis, but I'll give him credit for at least offering to critique a player.

For all the bitching about "drafturbators" there are far, far more chickenshit mother****ers who do nothing but go with the prevailing wind and bash whoever it is convenient to bash, whether it's a poster, the GM, the QB, et. al.

Fritz88's worthless ass comes to mind.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 8163133)

JFC you are a dumbshit. You can't even comprehend how you are being whored.

Your "giving credit to Palko for trying to be a QB" is a laughable joke, whether you meant that he is a good QB or not, is not the point.

Giving credit to an NFL QB for trying? Is this like the second grade where you get an "A for effort"? Also if Palko actually is "trying" with 0 TD passes and 8 turnovers in his two starts (both losses) then perhaps that effort isn't anything to get credit for.

Another epic fail on your part.

LMAO

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8161872)

I don't think Barkley has the arm strength to succeed at the next level. The way he spoke about the Heisman in that interview also leads me to believe hes not a super team-player.

Originally Posted by Bacillus Anthracis (Post 8163250)

I live in SoCal so I've been able to see the guy play a lot. The kid can make all the throws. He reminds of Chad Pennington...

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8162345)

With all of the training and coaching he's received in his life, I wonder how much more of a ceiling Barkley has. I don't know if there is much room for improvement.

Here is a detailed scouting report on him (cbssportsline):

Accuracy: Is generally a very accurate passer who places the ball in position for his receiver to generate yardage after the catch. Adept at the back-shoulder fade and in zipping slants between defenders. Has a tendency to throw slightly behind receivers running crossing routes from his right to his left. Is consistently more accurate to receivers running left to right. Good ball placement on touch passes down the seam. Struggles consistently hitting receivers in stride on the deep ball. Typically overthrows the route, making his receiver the only one capable of catching up to the ball. Doesn't own a howitzer, however, and some of his deep passes can hang too long as a result.

Arm Strength: Has the ability to make every throw, but has only slightly above average arm strength, overall. Zips short and intermediate routes, but relies more on timing and accuracy, rather than arm strength for the deep out. Only an average deep ball passer.

Setup/Release: Among his better attributes. Takes virtually all of his snaps from under center and gains depth efficiently while keeping his eyes downfield. Sets his feet and steps into his throws when he given room. Has a compact, over the top throwing motion with good follow-through. Has shown the ability to drop his release point to evade oncoming pass rushers.

Reading Defenses: Another strength. An intelligent passer who has the freedom and understanding of the offense to call audibles at the line. Good poise in the pocket. Trusts his protection and keep a running clock in his head, looking to secondary targets before vacating the pocket. Rarely throws into the teeth of the defense and when he does so, he shows good accuracy to adjust his throw so that only his receiver should have a play on the ball.

On The Move: Lacks the foot speed and agility to ever be a true threat as a scrambler, but is an alert ball-carrier who will take yardage given to him. Often used on rollouts in this offense, especially moving to his right. Impressive accuracy on the move, even when not allowed to set his feet. Has to learn to run lower and gain strength in his lower body to improve on the quarterback sneak.

Intangibles: The only freshman in team history to start at quarterback in the season-opener and the first for any team ranked in the AP's top five to do so since No. 3 Michigan's Rick Leach did so in 1975. The first true sophomore to ever be named a captain at USC. Legitimate concerns about his size and durability. Has missed at least one game in each of his first two seasons due to injury, including an ankle sprain in 2010 (missed second half of Oregon State, Notre Dame) and a bruised right (throwing) shoulder in 2009 (missed Washington). Also underwent surgery on his right wrist prior to 2010 spring practice.

--Rob Rang

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8162354)

Reads like a less mobile Cassel.

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8163267)

I agree, let's not draft a potential franchise QB because it gets cold in KC in the winter.