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DJ's left nut 04-19-2012 09:20 AM

Some rumors that Sheldon Richardson may be awarded an extra year...

No way. Right?

That would be huge news.

patteeu 04-19-2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8553220)
Some rumors that Sheldon Richardson may be awarded an extra year...

No way. Right?

That would be huge news.

What would be the basis for the extra year? Was he injured for one of his juco seasons?

DJ's left nut 04-19-2012 09:30 AM

I really don't know. I think he may have been academically ineligible for one of his JUCO seasons.

He really only played one year there - that has to have something to do with it. Still seems pretty bizarre though; I can't come up with a good reason for Richardson to get an extra season and it's awfully early in the game for the NCAA to be awarding it.

kcchiefsus 04-19-2012 09:42 AM

Yes, I believe Sheldon was injured his second year of Juco.

duncan_idaho 04-19-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8553250)
I really don't know. I think he may have been academically ineligible for one of his JUCO seasons.

He really only played one year there - that has to have something to do with it. Still seems pretty bizarre though; I can't come up with a good reason for Richardson to get an extra season and it's awfully early in the game for the NCAA to be awarding it.

Sheldon injured his wrist just a few games into the season (1 1/2, as I recall) and didn't play the rest of his JUCO season. It's a medical redshirt issue, though it's weird they're awarding it now. Those usually have to be done after the normal eligibility is exhausted.

I've met the women who heads the athletic tutoring program at Mizzou... according to her, they will never use College of the Sequoias again. here is a list of promises they broke re: Sheldon

1) He would be done in time to show up for spring football in 2011.
2) He would play one year, then redshirt to preserve eligibility
3) They would keep other schools away from him

DJ's left nut 04-19-2012 09:51 AM

That's pretty interesting; never really thought of a D-1 school 'using' a JUCO program but it makes sense that the DI squad would want their recruit to attend a school they are familiar and/or comfortable with.

kepp 04-19-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 8553288)
Sheldon injured his wrist just a few games into the season (1 1/2, as I recall) and didn't play the rest of his JUCO season. It's a medical redshirt issue, though it's weird they're awarding it now. Those usually have to be done after the normal eligibility is exhausted.

I've met the women who heads the athletic tutoring program at Mizzou... according to her, they will never use College of the Sequoias again. here is a list of promises they broke re: Sheldon

1) He would be done in time to show up for spring football in 2011.
2) He would play one year, then redshirt to preserve eligibility
3) They would keep other schools away from him

I'm sure there's a lot of under the table stuff that goes on with that. If a program like USC comes in and says, "Hey, if we can get some alone time with that Sheldon Richardson guy, we may just send a few of our ineligible recruits your way in the future", there's gonna be some dealing.

duncan_idaho 04-19-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8553301)
That's pretty interesting; never really thought of a D-1 school 'using' a JUCO program but it makes sense that the DI squad would want their recruit to attend a school they are familiar and/or comfortable with.

It's called "Sign and Place." It's fairly standard procedure. They did it with Markus Golden, too.

Nothing is binding or anything, but the schools help the kids find the JUCO that works best for them. In return, the JUCO takes the school's wishes into consideration.

There's a level of trust that usually exists. CoS was viewed as highly reliable before Sheldon. Not so much after...

Pitt Gorilla 04-19-2012 11:55 AM

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/i...s-than-numbers

There's more to Mizzou WRs than numbers

By Edward Aschoff | ESPN.com

COLUMBIA, Mo. -- On paper, Missouri's group of wide receivers bleeds inexperience.

Outside of veteran T.J. Moe, who will be a senior this fall, Missouri's returning receiving targets have combined for 51 catches for 712 yards and five touchdowns in their careers.

But when you talk to players and coaches at Missouri, those numbers tell a much different story. They say that while the returners aren’t burning up the stat sheet, it hasn't been because of a lack of talent.

"It's only unproven because guys haven't got the chance to do anything yet," Moe said. "We have a lot of good receivers out here and we have a lot of guys out here who have made plays."

Last year, Moe led the Tigers with 54 receptions and 649 yards. Behind him, Missouri had former All-American tight end Michael Egnew (50 receptions) and seniors Wes Kemp (29 receptions) and Jerrel Jackson (17 receptions), who combined for 36 starts.

"It's hard to beat those guys out because they do all the right things," offensive coordinator David Yost said.

While most of the talk concerning Missouri's receivers has revolved around inexperience and numbers, Yost and Co. are excited about what this group can do.

Missouri will be counting on speedy WR Marcus Lucas to make a significant impact in 2012.
Coaches and players think they have bona fide deep threats in rising juniors Marcus Lucas and L'Damian Washington. Lucas was fourth on the team in receiving last year (23 catches for 414 yards) and tied for first with five touchdowns. Washington was fifth with 20 catches for 364 yards and three scores.

Yost said both received more time as the season went on because of how explosive they were (Lucas has been clocked running a 4.3 in the 40-yard dash). Both ended the year averaging 18 yards per catch.

Washington was banged up this spring, but Lucas said he took full advantage of his time on the field. With more reps, Lucas said he shook the laziness that hurt him last year. His jogging and trudging around the field turned into sprints, his head stopped swimming and he finally learned how to finish plays after getting more comfortable in Missouri's offense.

"It comes with confidence, really," said Lucas, who caught four passes for 81 yards in Missouri's spring game. "When you don't really know exactly [what's going on] and you're guessing on what your exact assignment is it slows you down. Whenever you're out there just playing, you can play at your top-end speed."

Players like Bud Sasser, who worked at the Y position/tight end position, Gahn McGaffie and Jimmie Hunt, who caught an 88-yard touchdown in the spring game, all impressed this spring. So did tight end Eric Waters, who will now take over for Egnew, before he went down with an MCL injury that required surgery. Coach Gary Pinkel said Waters, who has two career catches, will be a key cog in the offense and should be back up to speed in three months.

Upperclassmen Rolandis Woodland, Jaleel Clark and Kerwin Stricker should also contribute more this fall and much ballyhooed recruit Dorial Green-Beckham, known around the program as "the big guy," will be on campus this summer.

"We're in pretty good shape," Pinkel said.

Before spring practice, 7-on-7 sessions helped build receiver chemistry, but what really brought this group together was not having quarterback James Franklin healthy this spring. After being sidelined with a shoulder injury, the receivers were forced to work with backups Corbin Berkstresser, Alex Demczak and Ashton Glaser.

Lucas said it was tough building chemistry with the other quarterbacks at first, but it forced the receivers to be more vocal in film sessions and in the huddle with the QBs

It also helped the receivers learn to take on more responsibility in the offense. They felt as though they were the voices this spring, and Lucas said that will be more beneficial for this group than in past seasons.

"We just want to be dominant," he said.

"We're kind of like the motor for [the offense]. We run the pace out there. If the wideouts are having a good day, it feels like the offense is having a good day."

Pitt Gorilla 04-19-2012 10:20 PM

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblo...g-a-look-back/

Missouri's spring has sprung: A look back

Is it OK if I go back to writing about football and not brand identity, anthracite and thermoregulation?

Swell. So, where were we? Ahh, yes, spring football.

Other than an inopportune torn labrum and the much anticipated debut of Missouri's new wardrobe, the spring came and went without too many major headlines. With so many established players missing time while recovering from surgeries, it was a tough spring to really come away with any strong opinions on either side of the ball. Plus, the depth chart turnover was fairly static: From the first practice to the final scrimmage, there was only one player who was promoted to starter without the player ahead of him getting injured. That was Matt Hoch, who replaced Jimmy Burge at defensive tackle with the No. 1 defense. A couple new faces started in Saturday's Black & Gold Game, but they replaced starters who were injured during the spring, like quarterback James Franklin (torn labrum) and tight end Eric Waters (torn MCL).

Speaking of Franklin, this Friday will mark four weeks since he underwent surgery to repair the torn band of tissue that protects the joint in his throwing shoulder. The first preseason practice is roughly 16 weeks away. The training staff expects him to start throwing sometime in July. Speaking to reporters for the first time Saturday since hurting his shoulder March 13, Franklin said he feels great, is thankful he decided to have the surgery and expects to be back for the start of the season.

Until then, the Tigers go back out of the spotlight and go through a few months of "voluntary" summer passing sessions, which are generally twice-weekly 7-on-7 drills that are organized by the players. Football coaches are prohibited from attending those sessions, other than training and medical staffers and strength and conditioning coaches. But it would be naïve to think the football staff doesn't have input into those drills. They get regular feedback on the sessions, too. Franklin won't be able to participate in the early sessions, maybe all of them, which means Corbin Berkstresser will continue running the offense this summer.

"It's going to be big because he's going to lead the team," offensive coordinator David Yost said Saturday. "James will be around. But running 7 on 7 … our seniors will do a great job leading, they've done a great job to this point … but the 7 on 7, the stuff they do this summer, it runs through the quarterback. The better he performs, the more attention to detail, the more on task, the crisper he is in practice, the better it runs. I know that's a big deal to him.

"He's answered all the challenges we've given him. It hasn’t' happened instantaneously like you'd like it. The first day he went up with the 1s wasn't his best day. The next day was better. And the next day was better."

Berkstresser's performance Saturday probably wasn't his best of the spring. Linebacker Donovan Bonner made him pay for an ill-advised pass out to his left, intercepted it and returned it 66 yards for a TD. Berkstresser saved face on the next possession with a TD pass to T.J. Moe. In four spring scrimmages, Berkstresser completed 50 of 88 passes (56.8 percent) for 651 yards, three touchdowns and three interceptions. That calculates to an efficiency rating of 123.4.

His production is way off Franklin's averages for last season, when he completed 63.4 percent of his throws with a rating of 139.9, but Berkstresser's numbers are more in line, and in some cases better, than what Franklin and Tyler Gabbert produced last spring when they competed for the No. 1 job. Gabbert completed 60.4 percent for a 112.8 rating, while Franklin completed 60.0 percent for a 112.7 rating.

Yost blamed nerves for any struggles Berkstresser had Saturday.

"There were things he did today he can definitely do better," Yost said. "But I've seen Brad Smith struggle in the spring game. I've seen Chase Daniel" do the same. "Blaine Gabbert. James Franlin two years ago. Tyler Gabbert last year. It's the first time they've played meaningful time in front of a crowd. You can say it's only 10,000 or 20,000, but it's different. How they slept last night, their thought process. The nerves are the whole thing."

Even Daniel, whose demeanor was either ultra confident or downright cocky depending on what colors you wore to the game, dealt with nerves early in his career, Yost said.

"When Chase played his first game against Arkansas State" in 2005, "he had a bigger crowd in his last game in high school," Yost said. "But he still told me, 'Coach, I was really nervous out there.' "

"I try to diffuse that as much as I can. There were things" Berkstresser "did well. He stood in there and he's getting the ball downfield making throws. The biggest thing I saw today was he played within himself. As the day went on he played better and better."

Yost could say the same for a few more players on offense. Here are a few who caught my eye the last six weeks:

Mitch Morse, center: Smart. Big. Tough. Athletic. Does that sound like what you're looking for as the anchor for your O-line? The coaching staff loves Morse's attitude, especially the way he approached winter conditioning drills. He hasn't deferred to his older teammates along the offensive line because he knows the center has to be the brains of the operation. He's especially good at handling shotgun snaps, which he'll do countless times this fall.

Gahn McGaffie, slot receiver/tight end: Moe was the team's most productive receiver from start to end and was especially valuable giving Berkstresser confidence by getting open and catching everything. But we already knew he could do that. The Tigers need more weapons in the middle of the field, and McGaffie was one all spring, whether backing up Moe at the H or filling in for Waters at the Y. Already a senior, McGaffie's hungry to make an impression above and beyond his kickoff return against Oklahoma two years ago. "I wasn’t going to let them give up on me because I'm coming out to work everyday," he said. "I'm trying to prove to them that I need to be out on the field so I can showcase my abilities."

Marcus Murphy, tailback: Murphy sat out last season after undergoing shoulder surgery. The Tigers barely missed him as Henry Josey put on a show the first two and a half months of the season—up until the point his knee exploded against Texas. In the first week of practices, Murphy tried convincing me he could have a similar breakthrough this fall, which sounds crazy … until you watched him saw through the No. 1 defense Saturday, much like Josey did to most opponents last season. "A lot of people say, 'We won't be all this in the SEC. The Big 12 is not like the SEC,'" Murphy told me a few weeks back. "So, we just got a point to prove to a lot of people."

Missouri's defense was missing a couple key returning players, both projected starters on the line, tackle Sheldon Richardson and end Brad Madison. Young players emerged at both positions this spring, but questions will linger over the defensive line throughout fall camp and into the season.

Missouri's thin defensive line, especially up the middle, is going to wear down too easily against all those brutish running games in the SEC, right? Here's something I came across while crunching some numbers. Missouri's seven new opponents in the SEC (Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Vanderbilt, Tennessee and Kentucky) averaged 38.1 rushing attempts a game last year. South Carolina and Georgia ran it more than 40 times a game. Last year's nine Big 12 opponents averaged 40.1 rushing attempts per game, with five averaging more than 40 attempts per game, with three running more than 45 times a game: Texas, Kansas State and Kansas. On average, teams ran more plays in the Big 12, where the no-huddle is more prevalent, as seven Big 12 teams ran more than 950 plays from scrimmage, compared to just one in the SEC, Georgia at 1,016. (Georgia and LSU played 14 games, while the most anyone played in the Big 12 was 13. Still, Big 12 teams averaged 76.2 plays per game last year; the SEC teams averaged 65.5 plays.)

What am I getting at? Maybe lacking excessive depth across the D-line won't hurt Missouri as much some think. The Missouri defense figures to be on the field for fewer plays in the SEC and defenders have more time between snaps to catch their breath. Maybe some of those differences in style will mitigate any depth issues the Tigers have along the front four.

Then again, Missouri gets back one big piece of that front four come August. Richardson posted this on Twitter and Facebook shortly after the Black and & Gold Game: " … had fun watchin the boys get after each other but know DADDY'S back for summer and fall camp"

While the Tigers wait on DADDY to return, here are a few who jumped into the spotlight this spring:

Shane Ray, defensive end: The redshirt freshman breezed past offensive tackles in some of the scrimmages, looking every bit like a capable third-down edge rusher on passing situations. Ray cracked the 240s and expects to be in the 250s by fall camp. Too skinny for the SEC? Tell that to LSU All-American defensive end Sam Montgomery, who was listed at 245 last season. Or his counterpart on the Tigers' D-line, 240-pound Barkevious Mingo.

Matt Hoch, defensive tackle: Missouri defensive line coach Craig Kuligowski does not gush. I'm willing to guarantee he's never been described in print as giving a player "effusive praise." He can sniff out a glowing profile story a mile away, and is always quick to diffuse the hosannas. But when I asked him about Hoch a few weeks ago, Kul noticeably perked up. He'd found a D-tackle right under his nose at D-end.

"He’s playing his best football now since he’s been here," Kuligowski said of Hoch, who played tight end in 2010 and defensive end last year. "You play defensive end you occasionally get a double team. You play defensive tackle you get a double team every other play. He’s got to learn how to be an inside player, how to play low, how to play with strength. He’s pretty relentless to the ball, which is great and one of the reasons why he was able to move to that position."

After passing Burge on the depth chart, Hoch played with the starters the rest of the spring. He'll likely move to second team once Richardson returns but should find himself in a steady rotation.

Kenronte Walker, safety: Missouri has a mix of candidates at safety but only one senior, Walker. He's become more than a de-facto leader of the group. For new safeties coach Alex Grinch, Walker's presence was valuable this spring. "He’s a guy who’s embraced a leadership role," Grinch said. "He’s not a heavy talker by any stretch of the imagination, but he’s a guy who has the want-to to be a good player. The guys recognize that. I’ve recognized that up to this point. And he’s had a really good spring."

baitism 04-19-2012 10:56 PM

Unless SR has a disappointing year, I can't see him coming back for 2013.

Pitt Gorilla 04-28-2012 09:33 PM

Clay Rhodes, the top HS football player in the state of Kansas, named a top 3 of Mizzou, Okie Lite, and Arizona State.

Love it.

Bowser 04-28-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8579917)
Clay Rhodes, the top HS football player in the state of Kansas, named a top 3 of Mizzou, Okie Lite, and Arizona State.

Love it.

Unpossible. I learned from Kevin Keitzman that no Kansas kid would have the audacity to potentially choose Mizzou as his destination school. Big XII Leftover pride, and all.

Pitt Gorilla 04-29-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8580093)
Unpossible. I learned from Kevin Keitzman that no Kansas kid would have the audacity to potentially choose Mizzou as his destination school. Big XII Leftover pride, and all.

KK is a complete idiot. He tends to get confused between what he wants to happen and reality.

Regarding Rhodes, if he was to pick Mizzou, MU would be building an insanely-talent O-line for the future.

Saul Good 04-29-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8580132)
KK is a complete idiot. He tends to get confused between what he wants to happen and reality.

Regarding Rhodes, if he was to pick Mizzou, MU would be building an insanely-talent O-line for the future.

He's picking Mizzou.


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