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whoman69 09-04-2012 01:20 PM

Quinn brings a few things to the table that Cassel doesn't have, a strong arm for one. I don't think that we've seen enough of him to really know what he brings to the table here in KC. There are glimpses in his work that lead one to understand why he has not thrown a pass in three years in a regular game. He is not a very accurate QB for one.

I am not buying into the resurrecting a career to make them a starter in KC path again. If Pioli is trying to put the perfect team around KC, he is never going to get there. It will never be enough for Cassel. No team in today's NFL can be without flaw with a cap.

If Cassel fails, Quinn might be a future starting QB for the Chiefs. He is not the QBotF.

CoMoChief 09-04-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8876459)
I'm a Quinn supporter but with CoMo's track record just made it happen.


Just another stupid example how people around here will take ANYONE over Matt Cassel, regardless if that QB has no business starting in the NFL (Quinn, Stanzi, Tanney, Palko, Croyle, Thigpen).

Orton is the only one that was somewhat worth a shit, and he's a clown in his own right. He's no worse or better than Cassel really, but he doesn't cost as much as Cassel. He didn't want to be here anyways, he'd rather backup Romo in Dallas.

The fact that people are pimping Quinn....or some are even saying that Tanney is some giant secret we're keeping from the rest of the league...like he's going to be the next Tom Brady.

This shit has become comedy gold. ROFL

The Franchise 09-04-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8876926)
Quinn brings a few things to the table that Cassel doesn't have, a strong arm for one. I don't think that we've seen enough of him to really know what he brings to the table here in KC. There are glimpses in his work that lead one to understand why he has not thrown a pass in three years in a regular game. He is not a very accurate QB for one.

I am not buying into the resurrecting a career to make them a starter in KC path again. If Pioli is trying to put the perfect team around KC, he is never going to get there. It will never be enough for Cassel. No team in today's NFL can be without flaw with a cap.

If Cassel fails, Quinn might be a future starting QB for the Chiefs. He is not the QBotF.

Like I said.....I'm not expecting Quinn to be the QBoTF. I think he can hold the position down for at least another year....so long as we draft a QB next year. He'd be a cheaper option as well.

Black Bob 09-04-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8876789)
. And honestly....since Hasselbeck....he hasn't developed shit at QB.

Maybe that's because he's not coaching dumbass. GM's don't develop players. Go back and read my post. He had no faith in Quinn so he signed Delhomme. An old ass QB who could run an offense. He was desperate.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8877017)
Like I said.....I'm not expecting Quinn to be the QBoTF. I think he can hold the position down for at least another year....so long as we draft a QB next year. He'd be a cheaper option as well.

What position? #2 QB?

It's going to be funny when Cassel has a good year. Some of you will still hate him but it will be funny when we keep passing on QBs next year in the draft.

He's going to have a good year.

Black Bob 09-04-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8876969)
Just another stupid example how people around here will take ANYONE over Matt Cassel, regardless if that QB has no business starting in the NFL (Quinn, Stanzi, Tanney, Palko, Croyle, Thigpen).

Orton is the only one that was somewhat worth a shit, and he's a clown in his own right. He's no worse or better than Cassel really, but he doesn't cost as much as Cassel. He didn't want to be here anyways, he'd rather backup Romo in Dallas.

The fact that people are pimping Quinn....or some are even saying that Tanney is some giant secret we're keeping from the rest of the league...like he's going to be the next Tom Brady.

This shit has become comedy gold. ROFL

GREAT POST!!! :thumb:

The Franchise 09-04-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8877063)
Maybe that's because he's not coaching dumbass. GM's don't develop players. Go back and read my post. He had no faith in Quinn so he signed Delhomme. An old ass QB who could run an offense. He was desperate.



What position? #2 QB?

It's going to be funny when Cassel has a good year. Some of you will still hate him but it will be funny when we keep passing on QBs next year in the draft.

He's going to have a good year.

So let me ask you this......stat wise.....what is a good year for Cassel?

Black Bob 09-04-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8877075)
So let me ask you this......stat wise.....what is a good year for Cassel?


10 wins and a playoff win. That's all I care about. It's not fantasy football. Wins are all that matters.

If he doesn't do it, then he needs to gt the **** out. This is the best hand he's been dealt. Good o-line, good RBs, good receivers and TEs. Most of all the playbook has been taylored to his skill set to make him comfortable and he can change the plays. No more excuses. There will be nothing left to doubt after this year. Even if he gets hurt on the first play and misses the season. This is it for Cassel.

The Franchise 09-04-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8877098)
10 wins and a playoff win. That's all I care about. It's not fantasy football. Wins are all that matters.

If he doesn't do it, then he needs to gt the **** out. This is the best hand he's been dealt. Good o-line, good RBs, good receivers and TEs. Most of all the playbook has been taylored to his skill set to make him comfortable and he can change the plays. No more excuses. There will be nothing left to doubt after this year. Even if he gets hurt on the first play and misses the season. This is it for Cassel.

So say for instance.....this team wins 10 games and then throws in a playoff win....but this team wins IN SPITE of Cassel.....you'd be happy with him coming back?

Say......he has 20 TDs and 22 INTs but this defense some how finds a way to win 10 games in spite of him....you'd still keep him?

O.city 09-04-2012 02:40 PM

It doesn't really matter what cassel does this year. Can you win a Super Bowl with the guy at qb?

Black Bob 09-04-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8877114)
So say for instance.....this team wins 10 games and then throws in a playoff win....but this team wins IN SPITE of Cassel.....you'd be happy with him coming back?

Say......he has 20 TDs and 22 INTs but this defense some how finds a way to win 10 games in spite of him....you'd still keep him?

Yep, I probably would. We haven't won a playoff game in a long time. However, I don't think there is any way he throws 20 TDs and 22 Ints and wins a playoff game. It's highly unlikely. But, if it did go this way, I would want to bring in competition. I wouldn't want to kick him to the curb but I would bring in someone to compete.

You have to be careful. Baltimore brought in a QB with better mechanics after they won the Superbowl. They let Dilfer go for Grbac. It was a mistake.

Winning in the playoffs is hard. If you have a QB who wins in the playoffs, you keep him around.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8877170)
It doesn't really matter what cassel does this year. Can you win a Super Bowl with the guy at qb?

I felt that way about Haley as HC. Cassel would have to really get better at being clutch for me to say he could win a Superbowl. Pioli believes he can. I know that much... We haven't had a shot at a realistic option. Maybe we could have drafted Dalton but we just came off a 10 win season. I don't think we will keep him as the starter without competition if he wins 10 games and doesn't win a playoff game.

O.city 09-04-2012 02:51 PM

Can we put the "he won in the playoffs" shit to bed as a way to judge a qb. Tim tebow and
Mark Sanchez won playoff games. Use your eyes

Black Bob 09-04-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8877203)
Can we put the "he won in the playoffs" shit to bed as a way to judge a qb. Tim tebow and
Mark Sanchez won playoff games. Use your eyes

Until we win a playoff game, no, I cannot. That's the goal every year until we do it. Don't even say the word Superbowl.

Discuss Thrower 09-04-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8877114)
So say for instance.....this team wins 10 games and then throws in a playoff win....but this team wins IN SPITE of Cassel.....you'd be happy with him coming back?

Say......he has 20 TDs and 22 INTs but this defense some how finds a way to win 10 games in spite of him....you'd still keep him?

Well, if say Cassel threw .9 of those 20 TDs per win and 1.4 of those picks per loss then he'd grade out perfectly.

ChiefsCountry 09-04-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8877203)
Can we put the "he won in the playoffs" shit to bed as a way to judge a qb. Tim tebow and
Mark Sanchez won playoff games. Use your eyes

Both of them actually made plays to win playoff games.

The Franchise 09-04-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8877211)
Until we win a playoff game, no, I cannot. That's the goal every year until we do it. Don't even say the word Superbowl.

Hey dipshit.....Superbowl is ALWAYS the ****ing goal. ALWAYS.


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