I wasn't talking about Fisher. I was talking about the few arguing that adding another High pic to an already really young OL is somehow a good idea

If Kush were to win the C job, assuming he's ready which is a big assumption based on only the SD game, shift Hudson to LG where he thrived at FSU. Allen played both T spots as they where a strong/weak team who flipped their OL instead of a Right and left. Plus he's got enough arm length to play OT. I also wouldn't mind them dangling him for a pic but I doubt they could get one high enough to justify trading him.

Having Brady at qb it's more important to protect him than draft playmakers high. He can turn an average guy into a playmaker and he isn't mobile so you have to protect him. Different circumstances here. Almost completely the opposite.

Flip side, look at the Lions as an example of always drafting skills players high for years. Sure, they eventually got Megatron, but they still suck.

Look at the Falcons who completely ignore their OL last off-season, tell me what their record in 2013 was again? How did the Dolphins do without a good OL but good weapons on the outside? And the Giants?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

I don't care about other teams I care what is best for the chiefs. Alex is much more mobile than Brady so he can get away with an average line. But Alex needs quality playmakers more than Brady does. And that is not a knock on Alex Brady is one of the best.

Delusional sucks.

My point was that many people didn't give Fisher the benefit of 'young players are going to make mistakes regardless of talent'

It fit their agenda to declare that Fisher sucks ... many continue to do so tbh.

it was just funny hearing somebody talk about young guys and mistakes is all.

ok got ya :thumb:

I would try to resign Jon.

The Lions suck because their QB is a turnover machine and their pass defense blows. The Falcons lost Julio Jones early in the season and Roddy White played injured for much of the season. Tannehill has yet to prove he is any good. Eli is immobile and has to have a stellar line to succeed.

KC's line is going to be fine. Fisher and Stephenson at tackle is above average and I'm confident Dorsey will find enough players to adequately fill the interior of the line.

Jon was either here or there but never consistent. Frustrating at times.

We've got options, sure, but none of them are very secure, nor can you know the results until preseason play, when the draft and most of the quality veterans have been signed by other teams.

It would really be lovely if Rishaw Johnson and Eric Kush were legitimately the same players we saw against San Diego. There's just no way to tell, however, and if I'm banking on those guys in a year where the team is making a serious push for the division title and some noise in the playoffs, that's a bad bet.

Teams usually unearth special talent when it shows up because of injury or when they drastically outperform the starters in training camp. You don't often see legitimate playoff teams take 6th round centers and undrafted rookie guards from the previous season and just hand them a job because they showed a lot of promise on the scout team and in one game.

So what if he's more mobile? You're saying it's ok to have poor OL play because Alex can escape the pressure a lot of he times. Sure, how did that work out for our offense early in the year? I recall a lot of bitching and moaning about Alex always dumping the ball off to his hot-read. Well yeah no shit, who could wait for a deep route or intermediate route to develop when you already have pressure in your face in less than 2 seconds on numberous occassions? It was also a new group of WRs for him and a new offense for all of them so he can't exactly chuck it up and trust the WR to be where he is supposed to be.

Alex is better at escaping pressure than most QBs but that doesn't mean that you just leave it up to him to always avoid the inevitable pressure that will come from having a bad OL. I thought you guys would have at least seen by now that, like every QB to have ever played the game of football, Alex Smith is at his best when he actually has time to work with.

He also doesn't need game breakers at WR, he just needs guys who can run consistent routes, get some separation, and not drop the damn ball when it hits them in the freaken hands. He doesn't need a Calvin Johnson/AJ Green/Josh Gordon/Julio Jones/Larry Fitzgerald that'll go up in tripple coverage and come down with the ball like Stafford does. Could he benefit from that type of WR? Sure, all QBs could use one.

But Alex Smith would be fine with a bunch of Doug Baldwins if you did one thing for him, give him time in the pocket.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a> meet with guard <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz">@geoffschwartz</a>’s agent during combine, but the two sides may not agree on money: <a href="http://t.co/iqA8SBbumq">http://t.co/iqA8SBbumq</a></p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/statuses/439575090011725824">March 1, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Chiefs meet with guard Geoff Schwartz’s agent during combine
February 28
BY TEREZ A. PAYLOR
The Kansas City Star

“Geoff Schwartz loved it in Kansas City and would love to come back in Kansas City,” Deryk Gilmore said. “It’s just that he wants to be wanted, and hopefully Kansas City wants him. He’s a starter and he wants to be paid like a starter.”

Despite starting only eight games last season, the 6-foot-6, 340-pound Schwartz posted a plus-18.6 Pro Football Focus grade, the highest any Chiefs offensive lineman, and was rated as the site’s top free-agent guard. He was playing on a one-year, $700,000 contract.

Gilmore refused to specify the terms he’s seeking, but similar players who hit the market at Schwartz’s position last offseason signed multi-year deals.

Andy Levitre, Pro Football Focus’ No. 2 free-agent guard in 2012 with a grade of plus-17.3, signed a multi-year deal with Tennessee that paid him a base salary of $2.5 million last season and $6.5 million this year.

The No. 4 guard, Louis Vasquez of Denver (plus-12.7), signed for base salaries of $2 million in 2013 and $3 million in 2014. The No. 5 guard, Donald Thomas (plus-11.2), signed with Indianapolis for base salaries of $2.5 million in 2013 and $3.5 million in 2014.

Those are hardly prohibitive salaries in today’s NFL, but as it stands, the Chiefs will need to free up cap room to be a player in free agency. The league has set the 2014 salary cap at $133 million, which should give the Chiefs roughly $9.62 million in cap space, according to salary cap expert Joel Corry.

However, the Chiefs must also fit upcoming draft picks under the cap — which will take roughly $5.5 million, according to Corry — and it remains to be seen if they’re willing to pay what it might take to retain Schwartz.

Schwartz, 28, just completed his sixth year. He took over as the Chiefs’ right guard in Week 12 because of an injury to Jon Asamoah, starting five of the next six games, only resting for the Week 17 game against San Diego. Schwartz showed his versatility in that game, however, as he played right tackle.

He played in 14 games total last season, including three at left guard, where he also made one start.

Free agency begins league-wide on March 11, but teams can negotiate with their own free agents until then.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/28...#storylink=cpy

Can't keep everyone I guess.

But damn, some of these high contract guys we have better start playing a shit ton better.