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Chiefnj2 09-03-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 10876036)
Wilson is a good QB, but it's not like he carried that team to a championship. He was the very definition of game manager. Half of the Seahawks points came directly from the defense and special teams, and the rest was set up by Denver turnovers.

In two years Wilson has 8 regular season fourth quarter comebacks and 10 game winning drives. Plus another 2 postseason 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives.

In, what is it 8 or 9 years of Alex Smith?, he has 11 4th quarter comebacks and 13 game winning drives.

Wilson is "managing" a lot better than Smith.

MahiMike 09-03-2014 10:58 AM

Some of you guys were just lazy and clicked 'select all'.

You can't be serious with Hoyer and Fitzpatrick.

Graystoke 09-03-2014 10:58 AM

8 picks for Cassel?
That's it. I am flying a banner.

Sandy Vagina 09-03-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10876049)
The "fantasy football" excuse is so tired and played-out, it's not even funny. People want to see their QB throw it downfield not for fantasy points but because doing so keeps defenses honest and can lead to either big plays or PI calls that keep the chains moving. You know, things that actually win football games.

Funny you should mention the words 'winning games." You know who has been doing that at an elite level for the last 3 years? :)

I do get this point you are making.. and I too have stated many times that I'd like to see more downfield throws. That will come as the offense grows. It did come, as the offense grew in yr 1.

Sure would come more often and quickly, if the OL pass pro and speed WRs would show themselves as competent.

Buehler445 09-03-2014 11:05 AM

Right now, my tally is:

Elite in no particular order
Manning
Brees
Brady
Rodgers

Really good in no particular order
Luck
Russell Wilson
Phyllis
Homo
Raplisberger

Marginally better, maybe not in no particular order
****ler (Maybe)
Flacco
Stafford
E Manning
Ryan
Foles (probably)
Krapernick

Chief Roundup 09-03-2014 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10876095)
In two years Wilson has 8 regular season fourth quarter comebacks and 10 game winning drives. Plus another 2 postseason 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives.

In, what is it 8 or 9 years of Alex Smith?, he has 11 4th quarter comebacks and 13 game winning drives.

Wilson is "managing" a lot better than Smith.

You know this is like the old Elway argument. Dude would not have to be coming back so often if he played better earlier in the game.

GoChargers 09-03-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 10876107)
Funny you should mention the words 'winning games." You know who has been doing that at an elite level for the last 3 years? :)

Not Alex Smith come playoff time.

Chiefnj2 09-03-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10876146)
You know this is like the old Elway argument. Dude would not have to be coming back so often if he played better earlier in the game.

Being able to mount a comeback is more than being a "manager".

Chiefnj2 09-03-2014 12:46 PM

Clark has his pulse on KC nation. This poll shows it's much safer for KC to keep grabbing a veteran than draft a young player. Foles has a great year and 2/3 of KC fans don't think he's very good. Manning has two Super Bowl rings and half the fans don't think he's very good.

Pablo 09-03-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10876353)
Clark has his pulse on KC nation. This poll shows it's much safer for KC to keep grabbing a veteran than draft a young player. Foles has a great year and 2/3 of KC fans don't think he's very good. Manning has two Super Bowl rings and half the fans don't think he's very good.

Of course fans in this region are going to love the hard-working, conservative every-man of QB's. They all see a little bit of themselves in the guy.

Don't need all that talent when you can get by on a solid work ethic and just being plain ol' nice!

KCUnited 09-03-2014 12:58 PM

They did something similar on the radio a couple mornings ago, running down a list of QB's asking if you'd take him over Alex, and the number one response was "CARELESS WITH THE FOOTBALL!!!".

What about [insert QB's name]?
CARELESS WITH THE FOOTBALL!

Ok, well what about [insert QB's name]?
TOO CARELESS WITH THE FOOTBALL!

Mav 09-03-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10875786)
Because he doesn't think they are better. Plus the way he structured his list it makes it seem like AS is a top ten Qb.

Also, I'd argue Eli for two fairly significant reasons.

Not in the past two years. No way

Mav 09-03-2014 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10875823)
No, because our qb will look like shit.

He can't succeed without an elite team around him. This has already been proven.

So the chiefs were elite last year?

Pablo 09-03-2014 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 10876379)
They did something similar on the radio a couple mornings ago, running down a list of QB's asking if you'd take him over Alex, and the number one response was "CARELESS WITH THE FOOTBALL!!!".

What about [insert QB's name]?
CARELESS WITH THE FOOTBALL!

Ok, well what about [insert QB's name]?
TOO CARELESS WITH THE FOOTBALL!

LMAO

Throwing the ball too much is just plain risky! Keep it on the ground! Or keep the passes short!

Mav 09-03-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10876049)
The "fantasy football" excuse is so tired and played-out, it's not even funny. People want to see their QB throw it downfield not for fantasy points but because doing so keeps defenses honest and can lead to either big plays or PI calls that keep the chains moving. You know, things that actually win football games.

Who should alex Chuck it to?

Last year speaking.

Bowe? Fasano? He didn't have ladarius greene, keenan allen, gates.

Gotta have weapons


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