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MahiMike 01-01-2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11989321)
Lynch has five seasons of 280+ carries. Charles has one. Charles has had his carries carefully managed his entire career because he gets dinged easily, and there is no way that someone who watches Chiefs games regularly can deny this.

2 totally different body types. Lynch could play LB if he wanted.

saphojunkie 01-01-2016 11:43 AM

Talented player, but I would far rather have a versatile skill position player who can stay onfield and block than one who we need to "get the ball to in space."

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-01-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11988854)
This is all well and good, but the two things it neglects.

1. The aforementioned effect of striking the ground, which is a much more immovable object than an opposing player.

2. How close the respective ∆ts are to the critical value for skull deceleration. If both are well above, it's not much of a difference.

1) In the vast majority of tackles, striking the ground is going to happen at a speed that is much closer to gravitational acceleration. Their velocity on the y axis will be significantly slower, given that they aren't falling much of a distance at all.

2) Yes, if they are both well above it wouldn't matter much. But if they were, you would have players getting concussed on essentially every play, and even advocates of epidemic CTE acknowledge that this does not happen.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-01-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 11989326)
2 totally different body types. Lynch could play LB if he wanted.

It's almost like that was my point.

RunKC 01-01-2016 11:50 AM

Agree with Hamas here. I'm a big proponent of playing Jamaal at receiver more next season so he doesn't take as many hits up the middle. He could easily replace DAT's role on offense of/when he retires.

penbrook 01-01-2016 11:59 AM

Houston is practicing! Has a brace on his knee

DaneMcCloud 01-01-2016 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11989218)
We need to do something.

Watching Hammond JR. go out there and fail consistently is just as bad as watching he-who-shall-not-be-named marched out there time after time once he had lost his mojo.

Someone else doesn't have to be the answer - they just have to not be a problem...

But this isn't the case. It's just flawed perception.

Hammond is averaging more per return than DAT, this season and last.

You can hate on Hammond all you want to but to say that DAT is a better returner is false.

Numbers don't lie.

Mother****erJones 01-01-2016 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11989352)
But this isn't the case. It's just flawed perception.

Hammond is averaging more per return than DAT, this season and last.

You can hate on Hammond all you want to but to say that DAT is a better returner is false.

Numbers don't lie.

I like Hammond. He was solid in return last year. This year he wasn't on a team this year for most of the season. He also was brought back in shitty weather games. With that said I wana see some improvement Sunday. Don't make dumbass decisions.

DaneMcCloud 01-01-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11989359)
I like Hammond. He was solid in return last year. This year he wasn't on a team this year for most of the season. He also was brought back in shitty weather games. With that said I wana see some improvement Sunday. Don't make dumbass decisions.

Making poor decisions is a byproduct of not seeing the field.

Personally, I think Hammond is a more than adequate returner and 5th/6th WR and with experience, he'll continue to improve and grow.

Regardless of what happens with DAT, I hope that spending draft picks and gadget players has come to an end.

philfree 01-01-2016 12:13 PM

Without looking at stats I think Knile has been doing a better job on KOs then DAT was.

Mother****erJones 01-01-2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11989370)
Making poor decisions is a byproduct of not seeing the field.

Personally, I think Hammond is a more than adequate returner and 5th/6th WR and with experience, he'll continue to improve and grow.

Regardless of what happens with DAT, I hope that spending draft picks and gadget players has come to an end.

I think he can be used like DAT too. Jet sweeps and short routes. I also would like to see Fred Williams get a shot this Sunday.

Mother****erJones 01-01-2016 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 11989377)
Without looking at stats I think Knile has been doing a better job on KOs then DAT was.

Knile has to make better decisions. His bad return was brutal last week.

DaneMcCloud 01-01-2016 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11989382)
Knile has to make better decisions. His bad return was brutal last week.

Absolutely.

And unlike Hammond, Davis doesn't have any excuses, as he's been a returner for the last three seasons.

Mother****erJones 01-01-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11989394)
Absolutely.

And unlike Hammond, Davis doesn't have any excuses, as he's been a returner for the last three seasons.

IMO it's a case of not much playing time so he's trying to make some plays.

DaneMcCloud 01-01-2016 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11989399)
IMO it's a case of not much playing time so he's trying to make some plays.

I don't know, man. He does the same stupid shit when he's in at running back.

Unless there's a clear and concise lane, he just fails.

He has zero vision.


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