Oh that? I had forgotten about that. My fav part of that was how long and drawn out the moment was.

Was THAT my national championship?

Awesome. Poor Lzen pulling at straws to try and slam me two nights in a row. Give it up lil guy. In other news...a national championship doesn't feel quite as good as I would have thought.

What? Well you are totally full of shit on one of these posts. lol

I did forget a part of a movie I saw years ago but didn't forget anything I said just last night. ROFLROFLROFL

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...6&postcount=45

ku/Mizzou/whomever not scheduling local schools isn't about fear...

It's about ... what the hell is in it for the BCS conference school? There's no money in it, nothing to be gained and only things to be lost.

SMS thinks it deserves a home-and-home with Mizzou. As long as it keeps thinking that, it can keep sitting down in Blunt-land and being irrelevant (while not playing Mizzou). Same for SLU.

I'm not sure what WSU has proposed to ku or what Creighton has proposed, but Missouri has not received a schedule offer from another Missouri school that makes sense financially or for Missouri in a long time.

And that's the way it should be. Why should Missouri do ANYTHING that helps SMS? That's what scheduling a home-and-home with that program (And giving them a Super Bowl game) does.

I'm still trying to figure out all the hate from KU fans on Whitlock's column; dude was absolutely spot-on. He may not have said what people wanted to hear, but he was correct.

Here's what bothers me: Not playing to the seed.

If they were a 7 seed and lost to a 12 or a 13 or whatever, that's fine. But Self hasn't played to his seed in three out of seven tournaments.

When you're the number one seed overall, meaning you're the best team in the nation, then you shouldn't lose to teams like UNI.

Once KU was down by 8 to begin the game, he should have called a timeout, collected himself and team and changed the strategy. Allowing them to get down by so much is what killed them in the end.

It was a poor coaching performance and it's certainly not the first time it's happened in the NCAA's.

If Missouri State is mentioned you can guess duncan will be along being a vagina. It is incredible. lol

That charge NEVER gets called on Sherron Collins in any Big XII arena. None.

unfortunately...now college is about money, nothing else. not region (where college tuitions are paid) by alot of instate parents....

You still do not know of what you speak about. Like I said, I do not smoke, it the pain medications ( dope, as in drugs ) that keep me kooked up.

Sad part is you believing you know me better than I know myself. You should stop assuming.

I thought you meant pot as well.

And why wouldn't you? lol

I don't know you better than you know yourself. Why would I want that?

Man, what an idiot I was. Thinking dope could mean pot. ROFL

He was.

I've heard of smoking dope. Never heard of shooting dope, snorting dope, or popping dope. Maybe it's a Kentucky thing?

WOW, I'm so relieved that you finally came out and said it, I know myself better than you do after all these years of you telling me of the things that you know of about me.

Bout time you lived up to the truth.

Now, why you have the chance, go and learn more about yourself while you are on a roll.

Never mind me luv, most people hear know of my chronic conditions over the years. To me, all drugs is dope, plain and simple. Some like to confine it to just weed. Bout the only thing I have never done since the doctors have me on all kinds of crap.

The way you see things is hilarious.

Well, the only reason he has a job is because he stirs shit... it comes with the territory. It's like if a K-State fan tried making a serious point on this board... yeah, they might end up being right, but WTF is going to take them seriously?

2/3 weren't with his players. Once he's established *his* program, that hasn't been a problem. And his reputation prior to arriving at KU was anything but a tournament choke artist.

Terrible end to the year this year for Self. But that's what it is at this point, an isolated incident.

Not as bad as you...... Not as bad as you.

Yep... FFS, he won a NC with his first group of seniors. He can't make free throws or 3 pointers for them.

Because his health problems have been pretty well publicized here.

Springfield Teacher's College?

What column?

I just think its funny...

Its like...everytime on the buzzer..MSU reference brings you out.

There is only so much time you can spend yacking about irrelevant you think something is. If that was really the case obviously you wouldn't take the time.

No, but don't you think he could have done some things differently? Why wait so long to go to the press?

There were a lot of worrying things about this team that we all swept under the rug because we won in the end. But starting slow is something that plagued this team all year long and it finally caught up with us.

That doesn't worry you?

This is actually an interesting write up.

http://www.cbssports.com/print/colle...-bar;btn-print

It's a crying shame Kansas didn't want it sooner

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Better late than never, Kansas wanted this game. Time had run out, sadly. Ninth-seeded Northern Iowa had just beaten the No. 1 seed Jayhawks -- the No. 1 overall seed Jayhawks -- in the second round, a 69-67 upset Saturday night that will rank among the biggest shockers in NCAA tournament history.

And Kansas wanted it. Finally.

The clock hit zero, the buzzer sounded, the Northern Iowa and Kansas State fans in attendance at the Ford Center went bonkers, and right then and there, it occurred to the Jayhawks that they really wanted to win this game.

Senior guard Sherron Collins walked toward the Kansas bench to be near someone, anyone, who might feel his pain, and finding nobody to hug, he simply collapsed in a heap in front of coach Bill Self's empty chair. Sophomore forward Marcus Morris was on his hands and knees. So was his twin brother, Markieff Morris.

Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- every year since 1998.

The Morris twins were crying into towels. So were Tyshawn Taylor and Xavier Henry. Brady Morningstar was bawling loudly, completely broken by this loss. It was a shocking sight for two reasons.

One, like I said, I've never seen a locker room this distraught.

Two, Kansas didn't play like the game had mattered this much. Not until it was late. Not until it was too late, obviously.

I'll tell you when it kicked in for Kansas, the desire to win, the realization that losing might actually, you know, hurt: With less than three minutes left, when Self stopped yelling and started coaching, and had his players cover the entire court as if their season depended on it. Which it did. From that moment on, it was obvious which team was the No. 1 overall Goliath, and which team was the ninth-seeded David from the Missouri Valley Conference.

Honestly, it was uncomfortable to watch the final three minutes. Uncomfortable because it wasn't fair, Kansas being so much bigger, stronger and quicker than Northern Iowa. It was like watching a ninth-grader beat up a second-grader. It was that much of a physical mismatch.

And it was uncomfortable because, as those final three minutes unfolded, it crystallized Kansas' apathy over the previous 37 minutes.

Kansas had wanted to win from the opening tap, sure. Sort of like, when it's dinner time, you want to eat. Are you hungry? Maybe, maybe not. But it's 6 p.m., and you eat at 6, so you head for the table. Same with Kansas for those first 37 minutes. This was a game, and athletes prefer winning to losing, so Kansas wanted to win.

But the Jayhawks didn't need to win until they trailed 59-54 with 2 minutes, 58 seconds left. They weren't starving until those final three minutes. Northern Iowa, meanwhile, chased down this game from the opening tap like it was the Panthers' first meal in weeks. I'm not talking about shots going into the basket, though Northern Iowa had plenty of those. Ali Farokhmanesh made a trio of 3-pointers in the first half, no surprise considering he was the final-second hero of the Panthers' opening-round victory against UNLV. Center Jordan Eglseder made two 3-pointers in the first half, a shock considering he had made just one 3-pointer all season.

It was more than made shots. It was rebounds. Both teams had 16 in the first half, and again, you had to watch those last three minutes to realize just how much smaller, slower and weaker Northern Iowa was. In the second half Kansas outrebounded the Panthers by eight, but by then the Jayhawks trailed by 12 points.

Kansas' low point might have come with 14 minutes left when a Northern Iowa 3-pointer was tapped all the way into the backcourt, and Markieff Morris literally stopped chasing the ball. He figured it was a backcourt violation, never mind that Northern Iowa was still playing. Chasing everyone else would have required desire, and Morris wasn't about to show that, and so the Panthers played the rest of that possession like a power play in hockey, five on four -- and scored two points.

Final margin of victory? Two points.

But it was more than made shots or rebounds or even hustle at halfcourt. It was grit. The Panthers chased Kansas around the floor like Kansas had taken their lunch money. Kansas was bigger, stronger and faster, as I've said, but Northern Iowa was pissed. It wanted that money back. Kansas was nonchalant, aloof. If this was a baseball game, through 37 minutes every Northern Iowa player would have had dirt on his chest and knees. Kansas' uniforms would have been immaculate.

Am I being clear here? Kansas forced just four turnovers in the first half, and that's not even technically true. Northern Iowa had four turnovers in the half. That much is true. But Kansas forced only one of them. The others were offensive fouls or unforced, sloppy UNI mistakes.

That's how the second half unfolded, too. Kansas forced two turnovers in the first 17 minutes of the second half. Do the math there: In 37 minutes, Northern Iowa committed just six turnovers. That's almost impossible to do, especially against a team with more size, speed and strength. But anything's possible when that bigger, stronger, faster team doesn't have the heart. And Kansas, until three minutes were left, didn't have it. Just wasn't Kansas' day in the ol' ticker department.

In those final three minutes, though, Kansas made like the Grinch. Its heart grew two sizes after Self called for the full-court press, and Kansas just about chased Northern Iowa into oblivion. The Panthers probably would have folded all the way under the pressure were it not for Farokhmanesh, who's as gutty as any player in the field. He had missed six straight 3-pointers when he found himself alone on the 3-point arc with 35 seconds left and a 63-62 lead.

It was early in the shot clock, so the smart basketball play would have been to pull the ball out, run off some more clock and shoot with about 10 seconds left in the game -- but screw it. Where's the fun in that? Farokhmanesh didn't punt. He went for it. He fired up the 3-pointer, and it went down, and this game was basically over.

When it was finished, Northern Iowa had scored more points off turnovers than Kansas. Northern Iowa had scored more points off the offensive glass. More points in transition. More points not just on the scoreboard, but more points in every way that measures effort.

Kansas led just once. It was 2-0. Other than the opening score of 0-0, this game was never even tied.

And you're going to cry after the game, Kansas? Don't bother. Too late. Nobody wants to hear that crap now.

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Harsh, but I can't say I disagree with that article.

My response was prompted by all the Valley guys whining about how none of the local big boys will play them... We aren't afraid of you. It just isn't worth it to play you.

Don't understand why it is hard to understand that ku isn't going to play Wichita State just because it might be good for the Shockers, that Mizzou isn't going to play SLU just for state pride's sake.

It's about money and reasoning. Give us a financial interest in playing you, or make yourself so relevant you HAVE to be played. Otherwise, the whining gets old, quickly.

Stay classy.
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So I wonder if Whitlocks article tomorrow will be crying how UNI was the toughest 9 in the bracket.

Remember who your talking too....

Why would anyone care what Whitlock has to say?

Of course it worried me... I wanted UNI to come out strong, because it seemed like it would be the only thing that could force KU to flip on the switch early. I was afraid of a game like this, because they clearly didn't have the killer instinct from the opening tipoff of many games this year.

Yeah, they should have adjusted sooner, and maybe even Self took it for granted that they would turn it around and make a run.... but am I worried for the future? Not really. I imagine Self will be spending a lot of time second guessing himself and tearing down the game, and I imagine the kids in the locker room learned a few things, too.

As far as starting slow, I don't know what the answer would be, and I know I couldn't ever be a head coach... you can say what you want and say it in 1000 different ways, and they still might not get it until it's too late. I'm not giving Self a free pass, just saying that I don't know the answer to that one.

But seriously, congrats on the good season. Making it to the round of 32 is nothing to sneeze about. KU was better than 315 other teams this year.

Wow, I must say that's a helluva way to finish the article.

Better than KState 3 times this year.
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:LOL::thumb:

Too bad the kids that really learned the lesson won't be around to make another title run.

And yet, not better when the games really count.

May as well crown your asses then. Good job you made the sweet 16. I lost count at how many times KU has done that.
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You really are an asshole. Beat your ass for 3 times this year, 2 times last year, and you act like K-State just knocked KU out of the tournament. Go shove a busted bottle up your ass and take a seat.

Come to think of it, the last time KU met K-State in the NCAA tournament.... we beat your asses then, too.

Well the count for the 2010 tourney would be 0.

the way i look at it, is KU beat K state 3 times, UNI beat KU, so that means UNI would win the big 12.

And yet only one team from Kansas will be playing next week. :shrug:

Oklahoma State didn't.

Most crashes out by a #1 seed belongs to KU. ****. That's just ****ing great.

Agreed.

I guess you have waited for 20 years for tonight, huh Saul?

LMAO

1988, I was 7 years old. Don't really recall much about that.

And yet, 20 years later, you still don't

Who are you, again?

Still having trouble with the remembering thing, eh?

It's fun to watch fans of teams cheer on other teams who did something to their rival that they couldn't do.

Nothing like living out your fantasies through another team.

Naw. I remember you are the tool that wanted to file a class action lawsuit against ESPN for Sterling Sharpe's "biased announcing", during a Chiefs-Raiders game in Oakland. You don't forget dumbass-ery like that.

You mean like the Chiefs fans have been doing the past 40 years? :doh!:

:rolleyes:

KU fans : Yeah we lost, but you're enjoying it. Clearly we're better than all of you. You're obsessed.

Everyone else : Ok, sure... but you ****ing choked... again. Against Northern ****ing Iowa. You were EVERYONE's lock for the Final Four... and to win it all. How do you expect us not to enjoy that?

Sorry fellas, but If you're the big bully... people are gonna enjoy seeing a little guy whipping your ass.

Get used to it.

K-State beat KU three years ago, and has beaten KU 90 times. Anytime you beat a team 90 times, it's a sign of vast superiority.

Tap-out acknowledged.

pretty much!:banghead:

:rolleyes:

I guess there is a certain pride in knowing the rare losses that occur for KU end up being other programs' signature win of the decade.

or maybe parity is starting to take hold. look at all the other "upsets"...

That was epic.

It's funny how every fanbase is quick to say they're the ones who take the high road, and then something like this happens..... some KU fans troll MU threads when they lose, and MU fans bitch about how they never do that to KU threads.... and then when they do, it's only because you did it first. And the opposite happens, too, of course. People love a good pile-on.

I don't really agree with your "everyone else" though.... "again" is bit much. Bucknell and Bradley were really not that significant given the circumstances, and they've played to their seed in every other tournament under Self before today.

Also, Northern f***ing Iowa is pretty good, and they played lights out... hell, this guy at ESPN called it two weeks ago...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/column...pat&id=4974228

Thanks for overlooking us.

I think it will be fun in the Sweet Sixteen.

Well, as Mizzou fans, we too know what it's like to be upset by Northern ****ing Iowa... so, there is that.

You're the big bully on the block... and you got beat down. People like to see that. (Plus you're ****ing KU, and I'm a Mizzou fan.)

All you can do now, is take your lumps. Man up! It's not like you have to do it often, for ****'s sake.

lawlz

I'm a UNI fan.

Very well put!

Well good job to your team. Luckily for you KU overlooked them.
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UNI came out and punched them in the mouth.

And they didnt do anything about it...

Crazy how this tournament works huh?

and never let up.

And left a bitter taste in mine. :shake: