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Chiefs Pantalones 02-05-2011 05:09 PM
Is this the NIT thread?

KC_Conniption 02-05-2011 05:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7408835)
They beat nobody in the nonconference. Can't beat anyone on the road or neutral courts. Have a bad loss to Davidson and TTU. RPI in the high 80's. SOS above 150. They are not anywhere near the bubble.
If they finish at .500 in the B12, they'll have a chance. NIT would still be impressive for that group, as it stands.

KC_Conniption 02-05-2011 05:14 PM
And I was wrong...they've been the 5th best team statistically (UT, KU, MU, A&M), not the 4th. In any case, as far as I'm concerned, that's all coaching, because their talent level is way below teams like Baylor, KSU, and OSU.

Saulbadguy 02-05-2011 05:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 7408511)
former Michigan QB Tate Forcier to visit KSU
;)

Saulbadguy 02-05-2011 05:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7408829)
If you ignore the fact that they have been the 4th best team statistically in the B12 conference this season.
I don't think the selection committee takes that in to consideration.

KC_Conniption 02-05-2011 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7408884)
I don't think the selection committee takes that in to consideration.
But I do when I evaluate coaches.

Saulbadguy 02-05-2011 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7409002)
But I do when I evaluate coaches.
Do those stats only include league play or overall?

WilliamTheIrish 02-05-2011 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7408836)
You were insulting his in-game coaching in this thread. That's what I took issue with. I don't disagree that he's been unable to get talent at Nebraska.
His in game coaching isn't anything special. I'm interested in what you feel his in game strengths are as a coach.

WilliamTheIrish 02-05-2011 07:58 PM
Off the bench today.

Sprads: 5-9; 4-8 from 3

N. Russ: 5-9; 3-6 from 3

'Tavious: 4-4; 2-2 from 3

Peterson: 3-3; 1-1 from 3

JH-Roberts; 1-6 (Monster one handed slam)

Dante84 02-05-2011 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7409143)
Off the bench today.

Sprads: 5-9; 4-8 from 3

N. Russ: 5-9; 3-6 from 3

'Tavious: 4-4; 2-2 from 3

Peterson: 3-3; 1-1 from 3

JH-Roberts; 1-6 (Monster one handed slam)
If anything, we're getting good experience for next year. Frustrating and disgusting as this year has been.

KC_Conniption 02-06-2011 02:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7409064)
His in game coaching isn't anything special. I'm interested in what you feel his in game strengths are as a coach.
His ability to enforce a disciplined, hard-nosed style and create one of the best defenses in the NCAA with a bunch of borderline scrubs.

KC_Conniption 02-06-2011 02:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7409025)
Do those stats only include league play or overall?
Overall, though the last two games have certainly taken them down a notch.

Saulbadguy 02-06-2011 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7409867)
Overall, though the last two games have certainly taken them down a notch.
Yea, overall is meaningless.

Saulbadguy 02-06-2011 09:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7409864)
His ability to enforce a disciplined, hard-nosed style and create one of the best defenses in the NCAA with a bunch of borderline scrubs.
They play "good defense" because they limit their opponents possessions by playing a boring slow paced offense.

KC_Conniption 02-06-2011 09:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7409997)
Yea, overall is meaningless.
Right, we should just ignore over half the season when evaluating teams and look entirely at those 8 games so far.

KC_Conniption 02-06-2011 09:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7410001)
They play "good defense" because they limit their opponents possessions by playing a boring slow paced offense.
Sorry, but that isn't the way defensive efficiency stats work. It takes pace into consideration.

Nebraska has a good defense because they actually limit other teams from scoring at the rates that they usually do.

Saulbadguy 02-06-2011 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7410012)
Right, we should just ignore over half the season when evaluating teams and look entirely at those 8 games so far.
You should ignore the non-con when you are saying "5th best in the conference". It's comparing apples and oranges.

WilliamTheIrish 02-06-2011 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7410015)
Sorry, but that isn't the way defensive efficiency stats work. It takes pace into consideration.

Nebraska has a good defense because they actually limit other teams from scoring at the rates that they usually do.
What was NU's def. eff. last season in conference?

Also, didn't Doc redshirt a couple of Jr's last season in order to have his big season this year?

Saulbadguy 02-06-2011 02:58 PM
I won't rag too much on Doc. They will probably destroy us in Lincoln.

KC_Conniption 02-06-2011 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7410776)
What was NU's def. eff. last season in conference?
Not good. But they were an awful team last year. A better comparable would be their 2008/2009 team that went 8-8.

Quote:
Also, didn't Doc redshirt a couple of Jr's last season in order to have his big season this year?
Don't know. But he apparently pissed off his best offensive player (Standhardinger), and the guy left.

KC_Conniption 02-06-2011 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7410031)
You should ignore the non-con when you are saying "5th best in the conference". It's comparing apples and oranges.
The efficiency stats take strength of schedule into account (including Nebraska's awful non-con), so that wouldn't make a difference.

Dante84 02-06-2011 10:35 PM
Tough day with some big drops, but some game-changing catches as well. Was Jordy the first Wildcat to snag a TD in a Super Bowl? To win one?

58kcfan89 02-06-2011 10:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 7413098)
Tough day with some big drops, but some game-changing catches as well. Was Jordy the first Wildcat to snag a TD in a Super Bowl? To win one?
First 'Cat that actually got some credit to win one. Lilja won one with Indy in '06 and I feel like there's a few more in the late 90s-early 00s.

Andre Coleman returned a punt for a TD for San Diego in Super Bowl 29 and Steve Grogan threw a TD pass in mopup time for New England in Super Bowl 20 (and was also sacked for a safety).

Dante84 02-06-2011 11:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 7413155)
First 'Cat that actually got some credit to win one. Lilja won one with Indy in '06 and I feel like there's a few more in the late 90s-early 00s.

Andre Coleman returned a punt for a TD for San Diego in Super Bowl 29 and Steve Grogan threw a TD pass in mopup time for New England in Super Bowl 20 (and was also sacked for a safety).
Oh yeah, can't believe I overlooked Lilja.

Thanks for the answers!

Saulbadguy 02-07-2011 07:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7410015)
Sorry, but that isn't the way defensive efficiency stats work. It takes pace into consideration.

Nebraska has a good defense because they actually limit other teams from scoring at the rates that they usually do.
Gotcha. I'll concede that this year, they are a good defensive team.

WilliamTheIrish 02-07-2011 07:38 PM
The "Pittsnoggle's" are making it tough for PITT tonight.

WilliamTheIrish 02-07-2011 07:51 PM
I can't believe the nation is forced to watch this boring Big East foul fest.

KC_Conniption 02-07-2011 08:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7415005)
I can't believe the nation is forced to watch this boring Big East foul fest.
Pitt and WVU have two of the slowest tempos in division one basketball. It's not particularly fun to watch.

KC_Conniption 02-07-2011 08:05 PM
Huggins calls timeout with 11 seconds left down 7. Totally unnecessary.

WilliamTheIrish 02-07-2011 08:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7415055)
Huggins calls timeout with 11 seconds left down 7. Totally unnecessary.
Hey, we were forced to watch a team foul with 3+ minutes remaining last Saturday and they were down by 15.

WilliamTheIrish 02-07-2011 08:25 PM
Thomas Robinson with the CK impression.

KC_Conniption 02-07-2011 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7415124)
Hey, we were forced to watch a team foul with 3+ minutes remaining last Saturday and they were down by 15.
That was pretty pathetic, really.

WilliamTheIrish 02-07-2011 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7415162)
That was pretty pathetic, really.
Yea. It was.

WilliamTheIrish 02-07-2011 08:35 PM
The Most Fabricated Rivalry West Of The Mississippi" has been a good game thus far.

WilliamTheIrish 02-07-2011 08:51 PM
Derrell Williams and four felonies?

WilliamTheIrish 02-07-2011 09:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7415245)
Derrell Williams and four felonies?
http://www.okblitz.com/Article.aspx?id=34111

Three counts of rape in December. Ruh-roh.

At least he didn't get a thread on phog.

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 02:30 PM
****.

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 02:30 PM
Jesus ****ing christ. LOL

ChiTown 02-08-2011 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7416997)
****.
yep

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 7417132)
yep
Can't say much on it, but i'm sure you know.

Until we start ignoring the rules like Kansas does, we are never going to have long term success in this sport.

Time to fire off a vulgar e-mail to our AD.

Coach 02-08-2011 03:17 PM
*tilts head in confusion*

Care to at least elaborate a little, or at least send me a PM?

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach (Post 7417163)
*tilts head in confusion*

Care to at least elaborate a little, or at least send me a PM?
Check the usual sources.

hawkchief 02-08-2011 03:48 PM
What up grapesters - rumor circulating that CK might be gonzo?

Dante84 02-08-2011 03:54 PM
.........

ArrowheadHawk 02-08-2011 04:18 PM
What is going on with your team? Is Martin losing control?

ArrowheadHawk 02-08-2011 04:25 PM
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/r...KSUDEBACLE.jpg

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 7417345)
What is going on with your team? Is Martin losing control?
This time it has nothing to do with Frank, which is refreshing.

cdirty 02-08-2011 04:34 PM
failed a drug test?

ouch.

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdirty (Post 7417408)
failed a drug test?

ouch.
KU says: ROFL ROFL ROFL

Seriously, who the **** tests student athletes for drugs?

mikeyis4dcats. 02-08-2011 04:38 PM
JBBauersfeld J.B. Bauersfeld
Just confirmed that Curtis Kelly is still a member of the #Kstate basketball team (despite some odd tweets out there).


sorry to disappoint

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 7417427)
JBBauersfeld J.B. Bauersfeld
Just confirmed that Curtis Kelly is still a member of the #Kstate basketball team (despite some odd tweets out there).


sorry to disappoint
.

Pants 02-08-2011 04:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7417150)
We are never going to have long term success in any sport.
Too true, Saul, too true.

:(

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7417474)
Too true, Saul, too true.

:(
This will remain true until I become the Athletic Director at Kansas State University.

Pants 02-08-2011 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7417480)
This will remain true until I become the Athletic Director at Kansas State University.
Don't be bitter. KU players get tested too, they just have enough self-control to stay off it for a little bit before the test, just like at every other school. CK is just a ****ing dumbass.

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 05:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7417516)
Don't be bitter. KU players get tested too, they just have enough self-control to stay off it for a little bit before the test, just like at every other school. CK is just a ****ing dumbass.
I have first hand knowledge to refute your bullshit statement. Not about CK being a dumbass, obviously.

Pants 02-08-2011 05:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7417529)
I have first hand knowledge to refute your bullshit statement. Not about CK being a dumbass, obviously.
To refute what? Pray tell me how SCB lasted a whole year at KState? That dude was high during the ****ing games, lol.

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 05:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7417535)
To refute what? Pray tell me how SCB lasted a whole year at KState? That dude was high during the ****ing games, lol.
Of course he got high on a weekly basis. He wasn't tested, nor were many before him.

black angus 02-08-2011 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7417516)
Don't be bitter. KU players get tested too, they just have enough self-control to stay off it for a little bit before the test, just like at every other school. CK is just a ****ing dumbass.
Your post infers that KU warns the players ahead of time when the tests are scheduled so they can stay clean "for a little bit". Apparently Aquib Talib never got the memos while in Lawrence.

Pants 02-08-2011 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by black angus (Post 7417661)
Your post infers that KU warns the players ahead of time when the tests are scheduled so they can stay clean "for a little bit". Apparently Aquib Talib never got the memos while in Lawrence.
So KU players do get tested for drugs? Saul said they didn't. Maybe he just meant basketball players.

KC_Conniption 02-08-2011 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7417516)
Don't be bitter. KU players get tested too, they just have enough self-control to stay off it for a little bit before the test, just like at every other school. CK is just a ****ing dumbass.
IMO, there's no way they stay off it at any time. But there are many ways to get around a drug test.

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7417769)
IMO, there's no way they stay off it at any time. But there are many ways to get around a drug test.
The easiest way is to simply not test.

KcMizzou 02-08-2011 07:49 PM
First thing I've seen about the Kelly situation that wasn't just a rumor..

http://cjonline.com/sports/basketbal...scrutiny-again

Quote:
Cats' Kelly under scrutiny again
By Austin Meek
Created Feb 8 2011 - 7:16pm
K-State investigating potential violation by senior forward
THE CAPITAL-JOURNAL

Forward Curtis Kelly remains a member of Kansas State's basketball program while the school investigates a potential violation of department policy.

School officials could not confirm the potential violation, citing student privacy issues.

“Curtis is still a member of our basketball program,” associate athletic director Casey Scott said Tuesday.

Kelly's status for the rest of his senior season remains uncertain, however. The Topeka Capital-Journal has learned the potential violation could result in Kelly's permanent suspension from the team and loss of financial aid, though Kelly has filed an appeal to retain his playing status.

The situation is not believed to involve NCAA rules violations, and no definitive time frame exists for the appeals process. Kelly's availability during the appeal will be determined internally.

K-State's student-athlete handbook provides an outline of the appeals process. According to the handbook's protocol, athletic director John Currie would provide an initial ruling, which then could be appealed to K-State's General Scholarship and Financial Aid Committee.

Attempts to reach Currie and K-State coach Frank Martin were unsuccessful.

Kelly was a preseason All-Big 12 pick, but his senior season has been marked by off-court drama. The 6-foot-8 forward began the season on the bench, missing K-State's first three games for transgressions that were never fully explained.

“I'm just not in the mood to play him the way he's practicing,” Martin said after K-State's season opener.

Kelly then served a six-game suspension for his role in accepting between $300 and $500 in clothing discounts from a Manhattan department store, an incident that also resulted in a three-game suspension for fellow senior Jacob Pullen.

Kelly hasn't been the only source of drama for the Wildcats, who sit at 16-8 and 4-5 in the Big 12 after being picked to win the league in the preseason.

Post players Freddy Asprilla and Wally Judge left the team during a recent two-week stretch, meaning any time without Kelly would leave K-State perilously thin in the post. Center Jordan Henriquez-Roberts and forward Jamar Samuels are the only other big men on scholarship.

Kelly is averaging 9.9 points and 4.9 rebounds in 15 games for the Wildcats this season.

kstater 02-08-2011 08:32 PM
Got my telefund call tonight. Said I'd donate if they could get me the scoop on what Currie will do. Anxiously awaiting their call back.

Saulbadguy 02-08-2011 09:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 7417919)
First thing I've seen about the Kelly situation that wasn't just a rumor..

http://cjonline.com/sports/basketbal...scrutiny-again
Are you implying my posts are just rumors? tsk, tsk

KC_Conniption 02-08-2011 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7417901)
The easiest way is to simply not test.
That helps.

KC_Conniption 02-08-2011 10:11 PM
Oh, and assuming Kelly is done for good (and it sure looks like it), this makes next week's game a lot less interesting. It makes for a funny story (or depressing story if you're Frank Martin) on ESPN, though.

58kcfan89 02-08-2011 11:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7418200)
Oh, and assuming Kelly is done for good (and it sure looks like it), this makes next week's game a lot less interesting. It makes for a funny story (or depressing story if you're Frank Martin) on ESPN, though.
You act like it was interesting to begin with....

KC_Conniption 02-08-2011 11:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 7418364)
You act like it was interesting to begin with....
It could have been. A game on the road in that atmosphere is tough for anybody. But without CK, KSU is awful.

Coach 02-09-2011 04:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7417480)
This will remain true until I become the Athletic Director at Kansas State University.
If that ever happens, you are hiring me as your HC for the football team.

Comprende?

Dante84 02-09-2011 07:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 7408511)
former Michigan QB Tate Forcier to visit KSU
Welp, so much for that. He's taking his talents to South Beach.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6105876

Bambi 02-10-2011 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7417529)
I have first hand knowledge to refute your bullshit statement. Not about CK being a dumbass, obviously.
KU does tests for drugs.

Talib failed three times.

Saulbadguy 02-10-2011 10:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7421550)
Talib failed three times.
:doh!:

mikeyis4dcats. 02-10-2011 10:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7421550)
KU does tests for drugs.

Talib failed three times.
and yet he stll played on...

Bambi 02-10-2011 10:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 7421561)
and yet he stll played on...
You can be the no weed school, fine with me.

I love smoking blunts.

mikeyis4dcats. 02-10-2011 10:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7421576)
You can be the no weed school, fine with me.

I love smoking blunts.
both schools have the same drug policy.

kstater 02-10-2011 04:07 PM
http://goemaw.com/forum/Smileys/goEM...istpumpkid.gif MCMW

mikeyis4dcats. 02-10-2011 04:07 PM
via Curtis Kelly twitter search:

sitting in the union as curtis kelly's hearing takes place in room 203. another day in the life of a k-state bball fan :( #freecurt
about 5 hours ago via web
****************************************
@JNutter: As, of 3:45 p.m. on Thursday, #KState forward Curtis Kelly was in uniform and practicing with the team.

ChiTown 02-10-2011 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 7422574)
via Curtis Kelly twitter search:

sitting in the union as curtis kelly's hearing takes place in room 203. another day in the life of a k-state bball fan :( #freecurt
about 5 hours ago via web
****************************************
@JNutter: As, of 3:45 p.m. on Thursday, #KState forward Curtis Kelly was in uniform and practicing with the team.
Holy crap, he's got the green light.

WilliamTheIrish 02-10-2011 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 7422659)
Holy crap, he's got the green light.

*EXHALE*

kstater 02-10-2011 08:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank
Q: What's Curtis' situation?
Martin: What situation?

Q: Has he been practicing with the team?
Martin: Yeah, why? He hasn't?

Q: He'll be available Saturday?
Martin: Have I said something differently? I love great questions.

Q: Frank, everybody in this part of the country that follows Kansas State basketball is curious about Curtis' situation because there have been anonomously-sourced stories in creditable newspapers that say he is facing some sort of possible disciplinary action because he violation some unknown-to-the-media rule, or university rule. Can you please clarify that?
Martin: Ask your source.

Q: I don't have a source.
Martin: Then whoever reported it, ask their source. If you ask me a question, I answer your question. For four years, I've answered every question. I was asked two minutes ago if Curtis was at practice, wasn't I? And what was my answer? Then I was asked if he was playing Saturday and I said, 'Yes,' right? So I thought I dealt with it. Now go ask the source that reported to you fine people whatever they said.

Q: Was there an appeals hearing today?
Martin: Not that I know of. Why, were you at one? Ask your source.

Q: You're our source.
Martin: Well, I'm telling you, he's on our team, he's playing Saturday. I wasn't at any appeals thing or anything, so ask your source.

Q: So there's nothing pending that could jeopardize his eligibility, is that correct?
Martin: I think I've answered that question five times.
.


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