I think Mickelson might get lost in that mess..just hoping the kid can rebound and block a shot or two.

EDIT - cant forget about Lucas who has provided some good energy, rebounding with Black hurt.

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Isn't McKay like 6' 7"?

Okay, bud. Okay.

I have no idea what this is

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Clones debate who the better coach is, Self or (ahem) "Dreamy":

http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/mens...lf-dreamy.html

You mean like this year?

lmao from that thread

Mind seriously BLOWN how many have said Fred

Rusty is just ****ing delusional. I don't want to be that asshole arrogant fan base, but then he says things like ISU might have competition if Embiid comes back.

It's just mindblowingly stupid.

How do you talk so much shit without winning any games??????? :)

I don't think people quite understand how good next year's team is going to be. It's going to be better than this years team even if (when) Embiid and Wiggins leave. You better get us this year.

6'9". But we will also have Nader who should be our star player next year, he's 6'7", but with a 7'1" wingspan.

Yeah, he drinks deep from the dick sock.

I wonder if all ISU fans think they're ever going to win a CC in anything, ever. Because they aren't.

I'll admit I'm a bit off-kilter from the start when they refer to him as "Dreamy" :hmmm:

People don't realize that this year was a down year. Losing four seniors and a lottery pick. This year is a rebuild, and we are a legit FF contender.

Next year will see:

Senior PG Tharpe
Junior Perry Ellis
Brannen Greene, Andrew White, Frank Mason, Conner Frankamp, Jamari Traylor, Landen Lucas - all knowing exactly where they are supposed to be in the offense and with another year of growth/training.

This is BEFORE bringing in two consensus top ten recruits, each of whom has a 7'3 wingspan and absolute tenacious attitude.

Next year's team - with or without Embiid - is going to be better than this year's. Period. And this year's team could with the national championship.

(Oh, and Selden is probably coming back. Good ****ing luck with that whole "McKay" thing)

But...but... Iowa state has THE MAYOR! And Jorge Nyang is going to be with his buddy who reminds him of a good player! KU is ****ING DOOMED!

I don't think Tyler Self ever cried when daddy's team lost a crushing game to a conference rival, did he?

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At least not in the past couple of seasons.

Poor Knowshack.......
Numbers don't lie....

KU vs. ISU
All time KU 174–59
@ISU KU 67–37
@KU KU 89–15
Neutral site KU 18–7
Last 5 KU 4–1
Last 10 KU 9–1
Since Big 12 KU 28–7

Now, STFU and STFD until you guys actually do something......
And no, beating the bottom feeders of the big 12 is not doing something....

KU is 5-0 in the last five. Two this year, two last year, and the 2013 big 12 tournament semifinals.

Good catch....guess they are not counting Tournament games in those numbers.

KnowShack MoreDreamy-o... I love it.

OU/West Virginia down to the wire on ESPNU.

Overtime again lol. 81-81.

Wvu beat OU.


Huggins is a damn good coach

This is just me personally, but the two conferences that bore me and that I have no interest in watching are the MVC and Pac-12.

It is good to be a Jayhawk, BTA, it always has been.

If Baylor can somehow put together a decent run down the stretch are we looking at 8 Big 12 teams in the tourney?

I doubt it. The wins would take away from another tournament team. That and I think Baylor is too far gone to be salvaged.

This was our down rebuild year too. Next year we return everyone but two guys. Both are starters, but we currently have two guys sitting out that would start this year. Not only are we in the CC running next year, but also the NC(actually last I knew sports writers had ISU as a potential NC team this year[along with 7 others]) all our other guys this year are first years, other than sophomore Niang. Only going to get better.. And next year taller for the first time under Fred.

NC?

Holy ****. You don't actually believe the things you type.

Iowa State is definitely Final Four caliber next year. Hell our Euro team last year was seconds away from it, and we are better this year than last.

I really don't know if you are trolling or if you really believe this stuff.

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Ben McLemore is in the NBA dunk contest this year. Pretty loaded competition. Paul George, John Wall, Damian Lillard, Harrison Barnes, Terrence Ross are the other guys.

Rusty is almost becoming as annoying as ChiefsandOsfan in Royals threads.

FFS, win something and you can talk. Nobody gives a **** about next year right now.

Just scored some seats in the first row of the chair backed section for Saturday's game. I'm stoked, got them from an alum I know that rarely doesn't use all of his seats. These tickets are bad ass, I posted a view from the seats from the last time I was there.

Do you think he would be OK if I went instead of you? :D

He might, but I wouldn't. Also the wife might hunt you down.

She can eliminate searching the KU watch party because Pants isn't there. :D

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Latest from Joe...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

And then WSU becomes the first #1 seed to lose in the first round.

Also, new NBA commissioner Adam Silver wants to increase NBA age limit to 20.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...mming-national

Lol possibly. I'm not afraid to play any team in our bracket let alone the country. Last year was a different story.

No surprise, but the list of the teams with the most wins since the 2000-2001 season is Kansas, Duke, Memphis, Gonzaga, and Syracuse.

@humblekid11: I wanna play duke next season

@deblois_ryan: @humblekid11 They are gonna be really good next year

@humblekid11: @deblois_ryan Kansas is too


Lol Cliff is getting excited.

A couple thoughts...Bill Walton is always high and Aaron Gordon is by far the most disappointing of all the highly touted freshman in the nation.

Wow. Bill Walton is intolerable. Too much weed for him.

He's great. Often makes watching these P12 games worth it (most of them aren't as good as this one) just to see what crazy rambling he's on.

He's high all the time. He makes the most idiotic comments lol.

Oh, Zona won, but they're done. Injuries suck, Ashley was a good player. Best perimeter shooter they had as well (and he's a big). No depth and can't score, great D but eventually you gotta score.

And I agree the Pac-12, for me, is hard to watch. They just bore the shit out of me. Probably the toughest conference to watch next to the MVC.

How is Baylor anywhere close to being in the tournament? They are in the next 4 out or whatever it is.

Truth. No matter if Embid does or does not come back the Big 12 is KU's until some team can prove capable of taking it from the Jayhawks.

He's just doing anything he can to help the telecast.

Because they've beaten a few good teams now and it just isn't that hard to get in anymore.

Still, I doubt they'll make it.

I wonder if they let more Big12 teams in this year even if they have more losses, just because of how good the Big12 is this year. I bet the top 8 could make it if they played in a different conference with an easier schedule.

What do you guys think, 6 from the Big12 this year?

6 or 7 is my bet.

Cole Aldrich believes Joel Embiid should stay
February 7, 2014

NEW YORK — Count former Kansas big man Cole Aldrich among those who thinks it’s not a bad idea for Joel Embiid to remain at Kansas for another season.

“I don’t knock a guy that wants to stay,” Aldrich told SNY.tv before Friday’s Knicks game against the Denver Nuggets at Madison Square Garden. “He’s so young and when you get to the NBA there’s no going back. You can’t go back to college and get those years back. They’re done, they’re over with.”

The 7-foot Embiid is widely projected as the No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft, but recently told ESPN he’s “strongly considering” returning for his sophomore season.

Former Knicks point guard and current NBA analyst Greg Anthony also told SNY.tv that Embiid should remain in college for another year because he’s not ready yet.

Kansas coach Bill Self has said that Embiid has the highest ceiling of any player he’s ever coached, but is still a long ways from realizing his potential.

The No. 11 pick in the 2010 Draft, Aldrich said he could’ve come out after his sophomore season at Kansas, but opted to stay one more year to realize his academic goals.

“For myself, my parents really harped on me to get my degree and I actually last May went and graduated and what not,” he said.

Aldrich said if Embiid doesn’t come out, he risks hurting his stock somewhat.

“You look at Marcus Smart at Oklahoma State, who potentially could’ve been a top three pick [last year], and now who knows where he’s gonna go this year,” Aldrich said.

Smart is currently projected as No. 6 by DraftExpress.com.

Still, Aldrich thinks another year of college can’t hurt Embiid — and can only help him.

“That’s just a tough position, when you’re that high, it is hard. If you’re a lottery guy or mid-first round,” he said.” Why not? What’s a year gonna do, it’s not gonna hurt you.

“It’s all about the position and the opportunity. And now I don’t know if the league is going in a different direction where you have higher picks who maybe aren’t playing as many minutes as previous years for whatever reason that is.”

Aldrich played against Embiid and Andrew Wiggins last summer at Kansas and believes both can be effective in the NBA next year, but also believes another year would help.

“I think so,” he said. “It takes time. It definitely takes time. You look at a lot of big guys. Andrew Bynum is a guy that came out when he was 17 years old, just turned 18, and it’s about that maturity level. Guys getting that extra year of experience, living on your own. Sure you make a lot of money and you could have people help you do that. But it’s about doing the right things because we can only play basketball for so long.”

He also pointed to the aspect of returning for another year to enjoy the pleasure of college life.

“If you were in that position and you could be the quote-unquote king of the campus, be the big guy and everybody’s talking about you, would you stay?” Aldrich asked.

Aldrich wondered what would have happened if Danny Manning, who tutored Aldrich, were still on the Kansas staff to tutor Embiid.

“I would’ve liked to see if Danny was there how he grew as a big guy because Danny Manning was just an unbelievable teacher,” he said. “A teacher, a mentor, a guy that’s done it all.”

Regardless, another year at Kansas could help Embiid develop under Self and his current staff.

“Big guys usually don’t mature till later anyway, until their mid-20s,” Aldrich said. “That’s when you usually get those good years.”

Cole graduated. And what not!

Of course cole would say that, he wishes he would have stayed. He sucks in the league

@humblekid11: Some college freshmen enter the draft when they not even ready to go ain't nothing wrong with staying a couple more years

Game day! Stoked to be going to the game. It should be a good one.

Is the game on tv? Besides in Kansas.

What time are all the local schools playing today...?

Too lazy to google.

Yes ESPN.

Does West Virginia still have that caveman playing for them?

Have fun man.

No they're rather small. They're like a generic Iowa State that plays even worse on defense. We shouldn't have any trouble scoring on them.

Who is "humblekid11"? I'm on Twitter just enough to know it's named Twitter and that's it.

Cliff Alexander. He converses with the fans a lot. Seems nice.

Ahh, awesome.

ESPN. 3:00 CST.

Hope this isn't a trap game.

Trap game because of KSU on Monday....?

There aren't many teams in the B12 that we have a better winning% against than KSU...I wouldn't call this a trap game.

@GoodmanESPN: Big 12 is best league in America. If Kansas wins league -- with toughest non-conference schedule in country, Jayhawks should get No. 1 seed.

If they win the B12, they will. See Indiana last year.

There's a whole lot of dumb in that realignment thread.

Tommie Smith isn’t surprised his good buddy, Rick Suttle, missed his train from East St. Louis, Ill., to Lawrence for Saturday’s 1974 Final Four team reunion in Allen Fieldhouse.

“What else is new? I know him well. I roomed with him. He said he had some premonition he wasn’t supposed to be here. I said, ‘Rick, please,’’’ Smith said with a laugh after the Jayhawks’ 83-69 victory over West Virginia.

“It was fun. Old folks always have fun,” Smith, who is retired and lives in Topeka, added with a laugh.

Members of the team that competed in the Final Four 40 years ago watched the game from behind the KU bench and were introduced during a first-half time out. They dined in the fieldhouse after the game.

“I thought they did a great job,” Smith said of the Jayhawks. “West Virginia had some great shooters. They were making a lot of threes (4 of 13 first half; 6 of 23 overall). We were sitting here saying, ‘That’s not going in, then ooh (the ball went in),” Smith added. “Our guys played hard to the end, did a good job of defending people on the three.”

Those from the team in attendance: coach Ted Owens, grad assistant Bob Flickner and players Cris Barnthouse, Bob Emery, Dale Greenlee, Tom Kivisto, Roger Morningstar, Smith and Donnie Von Moore. Polly Miranda, wife of assistant coach Sam Miranda, attended.

“It’s been wonderful,” said Owens. “It was a good game. West Virginia has some really good guards that make it difficult. They (Jayhawks) did a great job.”

Of having the ‘74 team in town, KU coach Bill Self said: “It’s cool. I hope I’m around when they bring the ‘08 team and ‘12 team back in 2035 or 2040, whatever it is. It’s cool to see coach (Owens) come back. He’s still connected with all of his players. It was a special team, a great year for Kansas basketball. It was good for our players to witness that.”

He’s OK: KU center Joel Embiid tweaked his back in the closing moments. “He came down funny on the other end when he got fouled. That’s why I was going to sub for him. He’s fine,” KU coach Bill Self said.

Noted Embiid: “It’s all right. It’s OK. I just landed (funny). It’s fine.”

Embiid had 11 points and 12 boards with three blocks in 17 foul-plagued minutes.

“That’s what I told him, you didn’t play a lick and get 11 points, 12 rebounds and three blocks. That’s good production for a guy that doesn’t get a chance to play a lot,” Self said. “Today I’m not sure there was a drop-off when Tarik (Black) was in the game.”

KSU next: The Jayhawks have a quick turnaround with a game against rival Kansas State at 8 p.m., Monday, in Manhattan.

“Coach said, ‘Everybody focus. Don’t do anything dumb (in celebrating Saturday’s win). We’ve got to get ready for this next one on Monday,’’’ said Jamari Traylor.

Spin move: KU freshman Frank Mason had a spectacular spinning layup past Gary Browne in the first half.

“It was a pretty good move,” Mason said. “I had to focus on finishing the layup, finishing the play.”

Mason decided to do some pushups by the scorers table before checking in the game in the second half.

“I just felt like doing some. It’s the first time I did it,” Mason said. Will he do it again? “Maybe. I don’t know,” he stated with a smile.

Bruise Bros.: One reporter suggested Tarik Black (11 points, four boards) and Jamari Traylor (seven points, three boards) be called the “Bruise Brothers.”

“I don’t like it. If somebody wants to give me a nickname, I’ll roll with it. I’m Mari. He’s TB, or Tarik. That’s pretty much it,” Traylor said, smiling.

Noted Black: “It’s a cool nickname and it fits us. We go out there and play hard. We do, however, have more than just two of us. I’m surrounded by players who play physically. We have a lot more people to add to that nickname.”

The legend: Bob Huggins is 0-7 all-time against KU; Bill Self 3-0 against West Virginia. “He’s a legend to me,” Self said of Huggins. “He’s done a good job with that team. That is definitely an NCAA caliber team.”

This, that: KU has won 111 consecutive games against unranked opponents in Allen Fieldhouse dating to the 2006-07 season. ... Self improved to 525-169 overall as a head coach. ... KU had 46 points in the paint, highest total of the conference season and the most since scoring 50 against Toledo (12/30). ... KU improved to 16-0 when leading at halftime. ... KU forced nine West Virginia turnovers in the first half, short of the Mountaineers’ season average for an entire game (9.7). WVU had 14 turnovers, which tied for its third-most of the year. ... West Virginia had 48 shot attempts, a Mountaineer season-low and the fewest by a Jayhawk opponent. ... Black logged 21 minutes after playing 23 in Tuesday’s game against Baylor, a total of 44 minutes after playing 48 in his previous five appearances ... Embiid swatted three shots to move to 60, two behind Eric Chenowith (62, 1998) for the KU freshman blocks record. Embiid now has a blocked shot in 17-straight games.

http://m.kusports.com/news/2014/feb/...mplates=mobile

Developing on ESPNU: OSU kind of sucks.