"Jamaal Charles just juked Commings out of his shoes".

Now he's hurt...

Fisher just had a really nice block

thomas is fast

Commings is breaking news.

Says the guy that is a football fan since March of 2014...

Edit: screwed up my own smack...

bray with a nice back shoulder pass

A fan from the future. Awesome.

Damn keyboard...

ROFL

:doh!:

[Twidwell]‏@LanceTHESPOKEN·3 mins
Bray running with the 2nd team now. #Chiefs

[Twidwell]‏@LanceTHESPOKEN·2 mins
Bray connects with Williams on the right side for about 35. #Chiefs

Arrowhead Pride‏@ArrowheadPride·2 mins
Bray with a beauty to Fred Williams down the right sideline. In stride. DB Brandon Jones is struggling

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs71·2 mins
Bray on the go to Fred Williams. Good touch on the throw. Jones in coverage.

[Twidwell]‏@LanceTHESPOKEN·2 mins
Bray hits Hammond for about 6. #Chiefs

[Twidwell]‏@LanceTHESPOKEN·41 secs
Bray overthrows Williams on the left side into the endzone. #Chiefs

I think Bray can actually pull this off and unseat Daniel.

Could this be the end of Daniels?

Terez A. Paylor @TerezPaylor
Also: CB Phillip Gaines is lined up inside and out. He's holding his own out there.

Good to hear.

I sure hope so. It'd sure be nice if Bray turned into something that we could depend on long-term at the QB position.

So Daniel looks as if he is running with the 3rd team now...

Commings is made of glass

Daniel with a nice td throw to Albert Wilson

Nick Jacobs @Jacobs71
Smith quick out to Jenkins. He drops the pass.
St Joseph, MO, United States



Today's daily drop from Jenkins.

:thumb:

I bet they're going to get Bray as many 2nd team reps as they can this TC to see how he performs in the pre-season games. If he sucks....he'll be gone. If he does well....then they can either put Murray on IR and keep Daniel or just cut Daniel outright.

Probably a pretty accurate prediction of what might happen...

Think KC won a playoff game by then?

He's on CP.....I seriously doubt it.

Right!! My joining this board was the exact date of becoming a football fan. Just when I think you can't get any more stupid, you say something reeruned like that! Now go blow your horn (and Jim Jones again) on the Dung-keys board.

LMAO

That will be fun to watch. He only went against the threes last year.

BTW I thought they can't put Murray on IR unless he gets hurt? The Star did an article about him being ineligible for the PUP list anyway. Could they still put him on IR if he doesn't get hurt? The league will be watching that one closely. Especially if Bray plays well.

Players have gone on IR for the slightest injuries. There are ways around it, I'm sure.

All that stuff confuses me as well. Didn't we put that Trick Shot Tanney dude on IR after the final preseason game a couple years ago?

Tell you what. We're going to take the Chiefs WRs and divide them into two squads of WRs. You take all the guys who don't drop passes, and I'll take all the guys who have poor drop rates but do everything else pretty well.

So it looks like I get Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Kyle Williams, and Hammond.

You get Hemingway, Harrison, and Dressler.

I'm not going to bother looking through which of the remaining WRs have good drop rates, but I'm pretty good with my team. You can have any of the rest of them.

Now tell me which is the superior team. Your team that can't get open worth two shits, or my team that actually has some semblance of talent but will drop the occasional pass?

None of those guys are really any good, but we'll see.

Bowe isn't any good?

Riiiight.

Because not being a good fantasy player = sucks.

Catching isn't everything but it's important. Especially for a first round pick who has been labeled a bust and is on his last chance. That's all I am saying.

The only reason I posted that is because I have read about Jenkins dropping balls almost every day and Saphojunkie called me out. I don't have time to look the shit up so I will just start posting them when I see them from today forward.

Bowe has been labeled a bust? ROFL

First off, you totally missed the point. Surprise.

I don't know whats happened to you the last few years but you have basically turned into a first class **** that does nothing but complain and whine incessantly. All you have to do is read the responses to 90% of your posts for evidence.

Enjoy your misery.

[Twidwell]‏@LanceTHESPOKEN·1 min
I found it rather interesting that Bray ran with the 2nd team today. Speculation on how safe Chase is is never ending. #Chiefs

:thumb:

Its okay to be honest with your feelings about football.

This is CP we accept all kinds of people..

Well if they do win one in the year 2104, we wont see it...

:banghead:

What a morAn.


At this point it camp it doesn't mean anything when any given player is running with a group above or below their normal. It's more likely being evaluated with different talent groups and nothing more.

Then post every other drop from every other receiver, then compare.

I think you are right. It might be time for another long break... This place makes a person very bitter about the Chiefs and football in general...

I agree and that includes Bowe. He's a sinking ship and is really going to struggle this year against Grimes, Peterson, Sherman, Talib x 2, Revis and Flowers x 2. He never does crap against good corners. He will be lucky to match last year's stats imo.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the constant mediocrity, and worse, of the Chiefs that makes a person bitter about the Chiefs.

Of course it's important. That's why the WRs with even the worst drop rates catch more than 80% of the passes thrown their way. If they couldn't muster that, then there would certainly be a problem. If a WR can crack better than 85% and do the athletic things that Jenkins does, he's probably worth keeping on the roster over shit****s like Dressler, Surgent, Williams, and the other undrafted pukes who won't do shit in this league.

Jenkins didn't have a drop problem in college, and we don't know much about this pro career yet other than the limited plays he's made at the end of the 2013 season. It's fair to say you're having your period over nothing. They're training camp practices, for crying out loud.

Off season into TC can be taxing.

I posted my list of receivers who make the squad because someone asked.

My list didn't include Jenkins.

I explained why I didn't include him. I have a couple of times now.

I can have who ever the **** I want on my depth chart.

Jenkins better look like Jerry ****ing Rice if he wants to make my list. He's had enough chances.

The end.

Our secondary and O-Line sound pathetic. Gee, no one saw that coming.

Not having a period at all. I am quite entertained actually. Here's my list again.

Bowe
Avery
Hemmingway
Hammond
Harrison

Is it really that outlandish to keep Jenkins off my list? Especially when you consider Thomas will make this team as a 4th running back? We won't keep four running backs and six receivers.

Depends on what you read. I have read Parker and Cooper are having great camps.

If neither side of the ball or any particular position group were doing anything noteworthy everyone would be complaining the whole team sucks.

They have to report something and every positive for one group is a negative for the opposite side.

Bring on the preseason games.

So JC juked Commings so bad he got hurt.

Daaaaaamn.

I am aware of the evolution of this conversation, and really don't give a rat's ass about Jenkins, or any of the other scrub receivers.

I am simply pointing out that you can not draw any conclusion from the list of Jenkins' drops without comparing it to the rest of them.

If our O line didn't sound pathetic, people would be saying our D Line sounds pathetic.

I can't say much for the depth at offensive line because I have no clue what it looks like. But I'm pretty damn sure we've got a group of 5 starters that will be just fine.

And again, a team's secondary usually gets abused in training camp. It's par for the course. Wait until the preseason games.

Yeah I can. You have to consider how many chances he's had to develop into a legit player and how much he's improved. It's been a while since he was drafted and he's still making some of the same mistakes (drops). It's not a black and white issue. That's my point.

Putting on Hammond, who is a less talented Jenkins? Yes, that's ****ing stupid when you're basing that entirely off of some tweets from training camp that said Jenkins dropped a pass or two in practice.

If the tweets said something like, "Jenkins looks clueless out there... he's unprepared... looks slow... ran the wrong route... etc." then you'd have a point. And even then, we're not going to know what he actually looks like until preseason.

This is ENTIRELY about you overvaluing drops in ****ing practice, and not about what you perceive to be your talent evaluation skills when you're not even at the goddamn practices, and instead you're just reading about them from your computer screen.

How many chances has he had?

He's going into his third season, which is when the light bulb goes on for a number of receivers.

Given that he's only 22(?), it would not be the least bit surprising to see him suddenly make that leap.

Nor would it be the least bit surprising if he never gets it.

Your posts strongly suggest you have a blind hatred for him.

By your logic SNR we would trade for Blaine Gabbert and cut Tyler Bray.

First off, pretty sure thats BlackBob or whoever.

Secondly, this is the first time in a long time that I can remember our offense getting the better of the defense in training camp this much (and it's not been lopsided) so thats nice I guess.

Thirdly, Jenkins is the 3rd WR right now behind Bowe and Avery, and all we have heard all off season is how intrigued and excited the Chiefs, specifically Andy Reid, are about him. He's not getting cut.

I don't hate the guy at all! I just want the best players on the roster. Right now I don't see him ahead of those other guys who are also having good camps and excel at special teams.

FYP

Other than Bowe and Avery, I don't think any WR job is secure.

And you, in your infinite wisdom, can make the evaluation based on some dumbass reporters tweets.

Good lord, you are a freakin' moron.

The problem is it's a one way street. Day after day, report after report it's the same thing. The DB's are getting burned deep by nearly every WR on the roster. Sure, an optimist might say that Frankie Hammond and Mark Harrison are the next great Chiefs WR's, but it's much more likely that our secondary simply hasn't improved from last season and may have actually gotten worse. Getting burned deep isn't something new for this secondary. Same ol' same ol'.

I want to read about plays being made on both sides of the ball. So far it's been nothing but domination. That's not a good sign.

You are over-valuing him because he was a first round draft pick. Nobody would trade a used porno mag for the guy.

It's likely that our CB's wont be very good, but either way, training camp doesnt say much about it. Specifically during the first week.

Who's going to ban Blackbob here?

On another note, this LancetheSpoken twitter douche sounds like a complete moron.

Nick Jacobs @Jacobs71
Mike Catapano is ill. Sanders Commings has a right ankle that is being evaluated. Mark Harrison has a hamstring.
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Looks like The Colonel is hurt again by getting faked out of his jock by JC.
Jeez this guy is fragile.

Are you serious?

I have no horse in this race you stupid ****.

I don't ****ing care who gets cut.

I am pointing out the hypocrisy and stupidity of your posts.

We've been following these camps for years and i can't think of a single case where a group struggled bad in camp and then came out firing on all cylinders in live games.

DAT is looking like the steal of the draft-according to the tons of positive tweets and comments about him. He sounds as explosive and fast as how he looked on his highlight tape.

We aren't very deep at CB, which isn't good, but I haven't been keeping up enough to know who's been getting beaten. So it very well could be our 5 or 6th CB.

You said everything you read about Jenkins is that he's dropping passes. I proceeded to point out that there was one tweet about Jenkins dropping a pass in the endzone. One.

On the next play, he "redeemed himself" (per Terez Paylor) with a TD grab. Additionally, the next day it was corrected that Jenkins didn't even drop the pass in the endzone, but rather it was deflected.

The idea that he's "had enough chances" is ridiculous.

Dude was a first round draft pick who got sideways with the coaches. He was traded after his rookie season and immediately had to learn a new offense. This is his third season. He hasn't even had the chance to play consecutive preseasons with the same TEAM let alone the same offensive system.

It's absolutely ridiculous to say he's had his chances. It's MORE ridiculous to say he's struggling in camp, because it's complete fabrication. In the truest sense of the word - fabrication. You are creating this illusion out of nothing but your own multish ignorance.

We're talking about guys like Cooper and Smith getting burned deep by guys like Mark Harrison and Albert Wilson.

I understand it's just camp and it's not the end-all of things, but there are certainly some signs out there that we should be worried.

Sure.

Again, I haven't really kept up with it so I can't comment either way

It's going to come down to the pass rush. That's the entire scheme - get to the QB before the cornerbacks get burned.

I love me some Marcus Cooper. I think the guy has terrific instincts and plays the ball extremely well. But he is not there yet, and if the secondary doesn't get toasted it will be because Dee Ford's addition to Hali/Houston makes a difference.

Either way, I'm thinking CB is priority #1 in next year's draft, followed abruptly by safety.

Josh‏@mr_tomahawk·44m
@HerbieTeope how would you evaluate the QBs performances today?


Herbie Teope‏@HerbieTeope·5m
@mr_tomahawk Backup QB battle starting to heat up. No. 2 offense had its way with No. 1 defense in goal line drills. Went 4-of-4 on TDs.


Josh‏@mr_tomahawk·1m
@HerbieTeope Was Bray leading the No. 2 Offense against the No. 1 D?


Herbie Teope‏@HerbieTeope·27s
@mr_tomahawk They split the four reps. Daniel led off.

I'd start looking around the league at teams with a stocked 2ndary that might let go of a Cb or safety that can help us out.

I was just about to post this same idea. Clearly, we're geniuses.

Those guys are going to be snapped up by teams higher on the waiver list.

We can pick up veteran cuts, but those guys are usually chum.

I don't have faith in Cooper like you do. He's Warfield at best, but his ability to play the deep ball is Bartee-ish.

If the secondary is going to have a chance, It's going to be because Eric Berry is beasting at single-high safety.