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I think a lot of us want Zobrist back but when his price went off the map for good reason I for one want Gordo back. Who could have guessed it would be this bad.

Ditto. When I thought they could get Zobrist relatively cheaply, I wanted them to do that and let Gordon walk. When Zobrist signed for $56 million, I started hoping they'd bring Gordon back.

I think bringing Gordon back was arguably a good decision even if he winds up sucking. It set the tone that this team will not simply let its players walk when they get expensive. If they wind keeping Hosmer and part of the reason was the team's willingness to sign Gordon, then signing Gordon was well worth it.

Oh and for the record, I was for bringing Alex back.

Surely the Royals insured Gordons contract for injury.

Kind of sad, but whoever fills in for Gordon is almost certainly going to improve on Gordon's production so far this year. When Gordon comes back, it will be considered "his" position to take back...but depending on how well the fill-in played, there could be some awkward conversations. And if Alex isn't real good right away, there's gonna be talk of benching or semi-platooning him.

Alex is our Joe Mauer, our Konerko. A lifetime achievement award, 10s of millions wasted for past production. So the fans can feel good rooting their sucky player who is on the DL much of the time. Awesome!

Whenever Gordo gets injured and misses 4-6 weeks, we end up winning the World Series.

It's been discussed briefly, but what would it take to get Rich Hill from the A's? He's only signed for this season ($6M), so short term commitment. He's been outstanding since coming back to the majors late last year. I'm not sure there's a Zobrist out there this year for our offense, but Hill could be a nice shot in the arm for the rotation.

Injuries aside, you've got to be encouraged by the fact that we've narrowed the gap with Chicago from 7 to 3 games. Yeah, it's a marathon...but you don't want to fall that far back and stay there.

Honestly, I'm more concerned about Cleveland long-term though.

I never was high on Gordon. Lf should hit homeruns.

Yeah think we signed the wrong guy. Gordon's contract may not end up being bad, but it's a scary thought right now when you compare the alternative Zobrist getting paid less. I know he's older but he's having a great year so far. 2.2 WAR, .335 avg, 31 walks already. Plays a more coveted position of need.

Plus we have a plethora of inexpensive outfielders who should be a great fit.

Paulo Orlando
Brett Eibner
Jorge Bonifacio
Rey Fuentes
Whit Merrifield
Jose Martinez**now DFAd :(
Travis Snider
Hunter Dozier CAN play some OF

We really have too many of them. Good problem to have, but our system appears to be weaker on pitchers, position players than OFs

Ya think that's because the Royals traded away five pitchers last year?

World Series Champions No1curr

The same package it took for Cueto

No way he'd cost that much, although it will also depend on other starters available --- supply and demand

Zobrist plays a position that is much more difficult to fill with a quality player. His versatility adds to his value. He was older, but we're in win-now mode. Gordon has been a great Royal, but he's much easier to replace.

Also, who of the pitchers we traded away would actually be helping us out right now besides Brandon Finnegan? So we'd have one extra guy, who probably would still be in the bullpen instead of where we need help in the bottom of the rotation.

I would be surprised if Rich Hill commands the same type of package Cueto did, but those trade deadline deals are tough to predict.

Re: Gordon, his slow start this year is concerning, but there also is a lot of time left on that deal to be blasting it as an awful deal. From a PR perspective internally and externally, it had value.

I still believe he'll produce enough to be a cost neutral guy at the end of it all, personally.

Re: Zobrist, that decision wasn't just about money, it was about where he wanted to play and for whom.

He took less money than others offered to sign in Chicago, so KC offering more years or dollars might not have made any difference.

My biggest issue with him is that KC uses Alex Gordon in a position in the lineup that doesn't maximize his skills. His OBP ability and base running are Gordon's two biggest strengths, and they're both wasted hitting 6th. KC would be better off hitting Gordon in front of Cain/Hosmer/etc.




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What do you mean "no way"? Hill has been unhittable for 14 starts (.180 avg against). He's 7-3 2.16 ERA vs Cueto 7-6 2.62 ERA when he was traded last year. Hill only avg 6 IP vs 7 IP for Cueto but he will be the big fish avail this deadline and will command a ton

Zobrist is swinging at only 33.9% of pitches this year. That is the 9th lowest rate in the past 14 years (2,294 player seasons).

There's the matter of track record to consider when positioning Hill in the market.

Cueto had five years of staff ace brilliance on resume, where he had performed like a top 5-10 starter in baseball.

Hill has only pitched at this level for 2/3 of a season, if you count the second half last year (and even then, he wasn't THIS good). He's less of a proven commodity.

As such, I'd guess that his trade package would look more like what the A's got for Scott Kazmir than what the Reds got for Cueto.

And that wasn't a tremendous price - a couple of prospects outside the top 100 on all lists.

I also still don't think the package surrendered for Cueto was much, BTW. Finnegan and Lamb are bullpen pieces at best at this point. Reed is the guy from that trade who I think ends up being a major leaguer you actually miss in a few years. He's the only one who might make an ASG or something like that.

And that package is still much more than what Oakland got for Kazmir.


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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ned Yost says Moustakas is still day to day with the knee contusion. That&#39;s about all he said.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/735232195896320002">May 24, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Gotta say. I LOVE being on this end of the year market. It's a lot more fun.

So in the 9th inning tonight Whit Merrifield led off with a double down the third base line. He absolutely busted his ass out of the batter's box, he sprinted like a madman after rounding first base, and he rounded second base with every intention of going for three until he saw the stop sign and put on the brakes.

It reminded me sadly of the 9th inning of game 7 of the 2014 World Series. You guys know the play I'm talking about. For one brief moment I wished Hootie were still here so I could troll him one more time about Alex Gordon's lack of hustle on the most important play of his career (up to that time, anyway). And Hootie could hysterically insist one more time that NOBODY in the entire history of baseball would have hustled on that play. NOBODY!

I've obviously forgiven Alex for that faux pas. His home run off Familia last year had a lot to do with that. Plus, coming so tantalizingly close in 2014 made 2015 the epic year that it was.

I even logged on to Royalsplanet to see if I could troll Hootie over there, but that place is a graveyard.

I'm still in awe of Paulo Orlando hitting over .400 so far this season. Sure, I know he's not an everyday player, but damn if he isn't making the most of his opportunities.

Yes it's fun to go read Hootie go totally Colonel Kurtz on himself over there. And I say that with a smile. I enjoy Hootie's sports takes. But it's funny to read his claims that Mods over here are going to pay him to post here again and other tangents.

Reeling them in....
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He may not be an everyday player, but he's never gotten the chance to prove it either. He was always very raw considering he was into track and not baseball. He's got power and speed and can play defense. I don't expect him to be an All Star but he might be a guy who can play quite a bit and be productive. Every time he gets a chance he seems to get better.

Soooooo you're saying pull the trigger on dropping Gordo for him in phantasy?

You think they're gonna get this game in today? Looks like there's a lot of rain in the forecast in Minneapolis.

Hootie:

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You know what comes next.

The curse of the Balboni strikes again. Moose could've hit 40 this year.

Looking the radar now and there's a line of storms just about finished with Minneapolis and nothing behind it. So yes, it may be delayed slightly at the start, but they should get it in.

http://radar.weather.gov/lite/N0R/MPX_loop.gif

I had no idea a Royalsplanet existed. I visit, and you can imagine my disappointment when its nothing but Hootie talking to himself regarding threads on CP...

That's hilarious and sad

I tried it, but it just a forum for Hootie to vag out. He's such a miserable ****

Wow...that is a sad, sad display over there. Hootie has some problems to work through.

Royals are saying on Twitter that they are targeting a 12:30 start time.

The Royals have apparently traded OF Jose Alberto Martinez to the Cardinals for cash considerations. Just got a notification on my MLB At Bat on my phone, so no link.

http://www.foxsports.com/midwest/sto...memphis-052516


ST. LOUIS -- The St. Louis Cardinals announced today that they have acquired outfielder Jose Martinez from the Kansas City Royals in exchange for cash considerations.

Martinez , who was playing for Triple-A Omaha this season, has been assigned to the Triple-A Memphis roster. To make room for Martinez on the team's 40-man major league roster, the Cardinals transferred right-handed pitcher Mitch Harris (right elbow) from the 15-day disabled list to the 60-day DL.

Jose Alberto Martinez, 27, was batting .298 with three home runs and 18 RBIs with a .356 on-base percentage in 37 games with Omaha this season. He is the son of former big-league outfielder Carlos Martinez.

Martinez won the Pacific Coast League batting title last season (.384) while also posting a league-best .461 on-base percentage. His 2015 All-Star season also included a career-high 10 homers and 60 RBIs.

The 6-foot-6, 210-pound Martinez has played 800 career games in the minors, batting .296 with 53 homers, 354 RBIs and 63 stolen bases. Martinez, who was originally signed as non-drafted minor league free agent by the Chicago White Sox in February 2006, also played in the Atlanta Braves organization before joining the Royals in 2015.

Hey that's my line...

I did the same and agree

Jesus, 6-6 and 210 pounds. That kid is a bean pole, lol.

Making room for Bubba in Omaha?

Sorry. 🤐

According to this, Bubba's not doing so well at AA

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...e79809892.html

Welcome to the first edition of Royals on the Farm, our weekly look at each level of Kansas City’s minor-league system. We’ll keep you up to date in this space on the top prospects who might become future stars with the Royals.

(Statistics through Tuesday’s games.)
Class AAA Omaha

The evolution of Brett Eibner continues in his third season with the Storm Chasers. A career .244 hitter in the minors, the center fielder is hitting over .300 for the second straight season with a .309/.411/.537 slash line, including 10 home runs and 28 runs batted in. Perhaps the biggest development for the 2010 second-round pick is his improved plate discipline. In 41 games this season, Eibner has walked a team-high 27 times. His previous high was 57 walks in 120 games for Class A Wilmington in 2012. … Not to be overlooked in Omaha’s outfield, Jorge Bonifacio is hitting at a .313 clip atop the lineup in his first year at Class AAA. Since an 0-for-4 night Saturday dropped his average to .301, the 22-year-old right fielder has six hits in 13 at-bats. However, the younger brother of former Royal Emilio Bonifacio will need to cut down on his team-high 46 strikeouts in 166 at-bats. ... Second baseman Christian Colon has five hits in 19 at-bats since being optioned from the Royals on May 18.
Class AA Northwest Arkansas

Right-hander Alec Mills keeps making his case as the best player of the Royals’ 2012 draft class. The former 22nd-round selection pitched six shutout innings on Sunday against Tulsa, lowering his ERA to 2.06 (sixth-lowest in the Texas League). It was his first start since a brief call-up with the Royals for a May 17 doubleheader against the Red Sox. He gave up one run in two-thirds of an inning that day, but he’s been lights-out for the Naturals. Mills is tied for second in the league with 49 strikeouts and hasn’t given up a home run in 48 innings this season. ... Speaking of strikeouts, righty Jake Junis jumped into the league lead Tuesday night with six strikeouts (in five shutout innings of a 2-1 win at San Antonio) to give him 52 this season. Opponents are hitting just .223 against Junis, who is having by far his best season since the Royals drafted him in the 29th round in 2011. He also owns career lows in ERA (3.08) and WHIP (1.07).
Class A Wilmington (Advanced)

Not much has gone right so far for the Blue Rocks (13-30), who entered Wednesday 2 1/2 games clear of the worst record in the Carolina League. One of the lone bright spots the past few weeks has been the play of center fielder Alfredo Escalera. The 21-year-old Puerto Rican, an eighth-round draft pick in 2012, was hitting just .225 on May 18 but has raised his average to .275 after a 12-for-22 clip. ... Center fielder Brandon Downes is hitting a solid .260 but has a league-high 61 strikeouts in 150 at-bats.
Class A Lexington

With Salvador Perez under contract through the 2021 season, Legends catcher Chase Vallot could become a viable trading chip for the Royals in the near future. Vallot, the 40th pick of the 2014 draft, is tied for third in the South Atlantic League with seven home runs. He missed nearly a week before returning to the Legends’ lineup Tuesday, going went 1-for-3 to raise his slash line to .284/.403/.543. ... After a disastrous start to 2016, righty Scott Blewett is starting to look the part of his 2014 second-round draft status. He pitched five shutout innings against Greenville on Sunday to lower his ERA under 5.00 for the first time this season. Walks have been the biggest problem for Blewett (2-4, 4.74), who has surrendered 25 in 43 2/3 innings.
The Top 10

A look at how the Royals’ top 10 prospects, according to Baseball America, have fared this season:

1. SS Raul Mondesi: The 20-year-old was hitting .250 in 25 games at Northwest Arkansas when MLB suspended him 50 games on May 10 for failing a drug test.

2. RHP Kyle Zimmer: When he’s been healthy, the former first-round pick has had success this season, posting a 1.59 ERA in 5 2/3 innings between Wilmington and Northwest Arkansas. However, Zimmer hasn’t pitched since May 17 due to an injured shoulder.

3. OF Bubba Starling: The Gardner, Kan., native and 2011 first-round pick hasn’t played since May 19 and is in the midst of a 3-for-39 slump over his past 10 games with Northwest Arkansas.

4. RHP Miguel Almonte: The 23-year-old righty has 22 walks and a 4.67 ERA in 34 2/3 innings at Omaha.

5. RHP Nolan Watson: It took nine games, but the 33rd pick of last year’s draft finally has an ERA under 10 thanks to five shutout innings on May 19. The righty is 1-4 with an 8.80 ERA for Lexington.

6. RHP Ashe Russell: The 21st overall pick of last year’s has yet to play in 2016 and will likely rejoin Burlington of the rookie-level Appalachian League when the season opens in late June.

7. SS Marten Gasparini: The Italian is struggling mightily in low-A ball, hitting just .161 in 112 at-bats.

8. LHP Matt Strahm: He’s been very consistent for Northwest Arkansas, maintaining an ERA in the mid-2s all season. His 48 strikeouts are fifth-most in the Texas League.

9. RHP Scott Blewett: He’s lowered his ERA in each of his past four starts, allowing eight earned runs in 21 innings.

10. IF Cheslor Cuthbert: The 23-year-old Nicaraguan was hitting .333 with Omaha before getting called up to the majors. He owns a .255 average in 14 games with the Royals.

ummm....wtf ???

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It's rather amazing how the # of board fights has plummeted without Hootie around any longer.

F U, Bitch get it right:

Big time statement series tonight!!

Only if the Sox win though

Hope we get this one in.

About 15 of us are going for a friend's birthday.

Cash considerations?

Ned must be having trouble making it to games on time since he sold his watch.

Not looking great

Will Mother ****er show up or is his nephew having a bar mitzvah?


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95% chance of rain at 7. Solid.

Edit: a different source says 40% chance of rain at 7

Answer: I don't know.

Oh no

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Moose has a tear in his right ACL. He&#39;s headed to the D.L. Brett Eibner is called up. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/735924550446288898">May 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Not sure how they're going to dodge this bullet.

God damn it. Call for the effing ball.

No surprise

Holy crap.

Might as well install Eibner fulltime in LF to see what he's got. Cuthbert fulltime at 3B, Merrifield splitting 2B with Infante and moving around as needed, Dyson/Orlando sharing RF.

Tore his ACL?!?!?!? Damn, didn't know that baseball players even had ACLs.

Well that was less than an ideal collision for the Royals. Yowzers.

I'm assuming he's done for the year plus some?

I'm good with this.

Wonder if he'll be out for the rest of the year, this is bad.... now we are really underdogs.

Should I hold onto hope that "a tear" is any better than "torn"?

If this team finishes over .500 then props to you GMDM.

So Cuthbert takes over, right?

The ****ing luck...two guys collide, usually nothing happens. We get a torn ACL and a broken wrist.

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Operation hold the opposition to under 2 runs every game until October.

Moose is a significant loss, but I wouldn't be pounding the panic button just yet.

When Morales is still hitting bellow .200 in August, then we'll talk.

RIP Royals. See you in 2017.

Trying to say the same... but over half of our opening day lineup is now either:
A. injured
B. benched due to lack of production

Having 3-4 AAAA players in the lineup day-in and day-out most-likely won't be sustainable over the course of the season. If the Royals are somehow still in the division race in a month or two.. then they HAVE to get more production in that lineup. But, my question is, what kind of package can the Royals even afford to give up at this point?

That's on Ned. He blew off questions about Alex being too crazy in the OF after he crashed into the stands in Chicago last year. Now this. He should've told Alex to knock it off (as many of us suggested), but he LOVED dat grit!

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Moustakas is done for the year, Ned Yost says. He&#39;s getting second opinion, but expected back for spring training.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/735937636729257985">May 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also: Kendrys Morales has a sprained right middle finger. He&#39;s day to day.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/735937863955709952">May 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Alex Gordon has decided it wasn't good enough to play like shit. He decided he'd take out our 2nd or 3rd most valuable player with his reckless stupidity

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