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Megatron96 08-23-2022 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16424937)
Season is almost here. I just can't do the offseason on here anymore...

Welcome back.

I get it, I mostly stayed away over the offseason as well.

TEX 08-23-2022 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16424937)
Season is almost here. I just can't do the offseason on here anymore...

Don't blame you. Some folks were asking about you, I told them that I'd bet you would be back once the season starts. Glad you're back.

Easy 6 08-23-2022 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16424918)
I wanted this kid bad and he hasn't disappointed.

When he beat the double AND blatant hold, the brakes came clean off the hype train... he's a monster in the making

Hammock Parties 08-23-2022 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16424937)
Season is almost here. I just can't do the offseason on here anymore...

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/asia...l-14428659.jpg

Marcellus 08-23-2022 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16425435)
When he beat the double AND blatant hold, the brakes came clean off the hype train... he's a monster in the making

I know its preseason but its hard not to get really excited about Furious George. I don't remember the last defensive player to show so much his rookie year in preseason.

tredadda 08-23-2022 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16425457)
I know its preseason but its hard not to get really excited about Furious George. I don't remember the last defensive player to show so much his rookie year in preseason.

Peters maybe?

RealSNR 08-23-2022 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16425457)
I know its preseason but its hard not to get really excited about Furious George. I don't remember the last defensive player to show so much his rookie year in preseason.

RICH MOTHER****ING SCANLON EVER HEARD OF HIM

jjchieffan 08-23-2022 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16424937)
Season is almost here. I just can't do the offseason on here anymore...

I know what you mean. This place is a cesspool in the off-season. But, the ignore feature helps.

jjchieffan 08-23-2022 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16425457)
I know its preseason but its hard not to get really excited about Furious George. I don't remember the last defensive player to show so much his rookie year in preseason.

Passrusher would probably be Justin Houston. Non passrusher, Bolton was pretty exciting from the start last year.

BlackOp 08-24-2022 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16425457)
I know its preseason but its hard not to get really excited about Furious George. I don't remember the last defensive player to show so much his rookie year in preseason.

Marcus Peters...if I remember correctly...he intercepted the first ever pass thrown his direction.

I'm usually pretty reserved when predicting rookies...but he has that same initial vibe to him. Out of the gate...the guy is already producing.

Mahomes was like that in his first preseason...it wasn't fully developed but he was making plays immediately.

Furious George is clever...if he pans out...it goes a LONG way at prolonging Chiefs dominance. Five years of cheap labor...maybe they draft a bookend next year.

Kiimo 08-24-2022 11:13 AM

The problem with Peters is the same problem with Trevon Diggs. People see the interception numbers and go wow what an awesome player let's put him in the top 30 NFL Players List and then ignore that half the time they're trying to bait the QB and percentage wise they get beat a lot when they can't make the interception.

Give me a McDuffie type any day. I don't want them to throw his way ever, that way you can erase their best WR. I mean, someday that is what McDuffie will be hopefully. But Peters will never be that.

Gary Cooper 08-24-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16425457)
I know its preseason but its hard not to get really excited about Furious George. I don't remember the last defensive player to show so much his rookie year in preseason.

You weren't excited about Breeland Speaks?

Kiimo 08-24-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 16426338)
You weren't excited about Breeland Speaks?

Let's see Karlaftis try and not fall down at an allpro not falling down level

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-24-2022 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16425457)
I know its preseason but its hard not to get really excited about Furious George. I don't remember the last defensive player to show so much his rookie year in preseason.

Jarred Allen, I don't remember , but what did he do rookie year ??

DJ's left nut 08-24-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16426667)
Jarred Allen, I don't remember , but what did he do rookie year ??

I think he has the franchise rookie sack record, no?

EDIT: No; Allen had 9 as a rookie. Derrick Thomas had 10.

Still not bad company to be keeping....

O.city 08-24-2022 03:23 PM

How great will Brian Burns look across from Karlaftis next year?

TribalElder 08-24-2022 07:57 PM

I hope someone comes up with a better nickname than furious george

the guy deserves better

staylor26 08-24-2022 08:02 PM

I personally like SNR's "My Big Fat Greek DE" :shrug:

BryanBusby 08-24-2022 08:04 PM

sackrates has been the only good nickname so far

Tribal Warfare 08-24-2022 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16427145)
sackrates has been the only good nickname so far

Yogurt it is

Marcellus 08-24-2022 08:07 PM

Karlaftigus is a dawg. And like all dawgs their name comes naturally. Just wait.

Easy 6 08-24-2022 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16427140)
I personally like SNR's "My Big Fat Greek DE" :shrug:

Clever but too long, not catchy

staylor26 08-24-2022 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16427197)
Clever but too long, not catchy

Oh I know I just loved it.

JohnnyHammersticks 08-24-2022 08:58 PM

Athenian Assassin?


I'll see myself out... :bolt:

KChiefs1 08-24-2022 09:03 PM

Greeced Lightning


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Halfcan 08-24-2022 09:42 PM

The only nickname I want to be able to call him is... Defensive Rookie of the Year.

RealSNR 08-24-2022 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 16427282)
The only nickname I want to be able to call him is... Defensive Rookie of the Year.

Not even Sackrates?

Pitt Gorilla 08-24-2022 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16427151)
Yogurt it is

Creamy White Greek Man Yogurt.

jjchieffan 08-24-2022 10:17 PM

Daniel Jeremiah at NFL.com really likes him. In fact, he projects him to get 10 sacks this season, which is more than any of the other first round passrushers. Here is the part of Furios George

Drafted: Round 1, No. 30 overall



Best-case scenario: Karlaftis is going to get a lot of opportunities to rush the quarterback playing in the Chiefs’ high-scoring offense. I think we’re going to see his production far exceed what he posted at Purdue (4.5 sacks last season). His power is real, and he’s one of my top candidates for Defensive Rookie of the Year.



Worst-case scenario: As much as I love his game, his production in college never quite reflected his full ability. Maybe that carries over to the NFL and he provides more disruption than production.



Projected stats: 50 tackles and 10 sacks.

Tribal Warfare 08-24-2022 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16427302)
Creamy White Greek Man Yogurt.

A Chaboni endorsement in the making

Otter 08-25-2022 10:08 AM

I submit to the committee as a senior member of CP we are allowed an offensive and defensive adopt a Chief.

Otter:

Offensive: Patrick Maholmes
Defensive: George Karlaftis

My credentials speak for themself.

TLO 08-25-2022 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16427307)
Daniel Jeremiah at NFL.com really likes him. In fact, he projects him to get 10 sacks this season, which is more than any of the other first round passrushers. Here is the part of Furios George

Drafted: Round 1, No. 30 overall



Best-case scenario: Karlaftis is going to get a lot of opportunities to rush the quarterback playing in the Chiefs’ high-scoring offense. I think we’re going to see his production far exceed what he posted at Purdue (4.5 sacks last season). His power is real, and he’s one of my top candidates for Defensive Rookie of the Year.



Worst-case scenario: As much as I love his game, his production in college never quite reflected his full ability. Maybe that carries over to the NFL and he provides more disruption than production.



Projected stats: 50 tackles and 10 sacks.


If he gets 10 sacks, I will... I don't know what I'll do

Hammock Parties 08-26-2022 03:02 PM

boy strong

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;We&#39;ll use the tight end to keep Karlaftis from crashing through on the backside of the play.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/9m95tx9ytq">pic.twitter.com/9m95tx9ytq</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1563270347398725632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ToxSocks 08-26-2022 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 16427233)
Athenian Assassin?

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ToxSocks 08-26-2022 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16427145)
sackrates has been the only good nickname so far

Sounds good. Reads like Sack Rates though.

staylor26 08-26-2022 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16430919)
Sounds good. Reads like Sack Rates though.

Yea, that really bothers me.

I guess Yogurt it is. We've already had Sausage.

JohnnyHammersticks 08-26-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16430917)
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I want to change it to Athens Assassin though, if that's allowed. Athenian Assassin is too many syllables. Would be difficult to say if drinking while watching games.

Chris Meck 08-26-2022 06:14 PM

What's wrong with Furious George? It's a natural.

Anyway, the kid's a stud, and he's going to get 10 sacks this year.

RealSNR 08-26-2022 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16431082)
What's wrong with Furious George? It's a natural.

Anyway, the kid's a stud, and he's going to get 10 sacks this year.

Furious George is fine. Sackrates is better.

Just my opinion, of course.

smithandrew051 08-26-2022 06:42 PM

Greek-on Jones

Coochie liquor 08-26-2022 06:43 PM

What was the bet someone has with Blowmo again??

Kiimo 08-26-2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16430919)
Sounds good. Reads like Sack Rates though.

And if you lose the K it reads like a Bursa Sac.

You know it will be Furious George, it's already hit the media.

Also it's way better than whatever Mitch Holthus would come up with which would probably be something like White Zeus

RealSNR 08-26-2022 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16430919)
Sounds good. Reads like Sack Rates though.

If it catches on, the announcers are going to start saying it, and people won't need to put it in writing. And if they do, everybody will know what they mean.

It's fine.

Easy 6 08-26-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16431082)
What's wrong with Furious George? It's a natural.

Everyone wants their own pet project, instead of simply seeing the obvious choice :(

mlyonsd 08-26-2022 06:50 PM

Freaky Tazeaky

frozenchief 08-26-2022 06:56 PM

Gyro Hero is too damn cheesy. And if you don’t think those words rhyme, you aren’t married to a Greek.

Furious George is really good but I also like Sackrates.

Chris Meck 08-26-2022 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16431151)
If it catches on, the announcers are going to start saying it, and people won't need to put it in writing. And if they do, everybody will know what they mean.

It's fine.

It's a reference to a 25 year old movie. I don't think it works.

Megatron96 08-26-2022 07:06 PM

Just watched some sports show analysts do the math and figure out that the best pass-rushing DEs of all-time got either a sack or a half-sack about 7% of the time. In other words, actually getting sacks was incredibly difficult and about 93% of the time even the Derrick Thomas' and the Reggie White's of the NFL didn't get home.

If you think about it, that means that DEs probably the vast majority of their money doing other things.

Kiimo 08-26-2022 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16431173)
It's a reference to a 25 year old movie. I don't think it works.

I don't think he's hoping for the Bill and Ted pronunciation he's hoping for the "sack - rah -tees" pronunciation

Chris Meck 08-26-2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16431186)
I don't think he's hoping for the Bill and Ted pronunciation he's hoping for the "sack - rah -tees" pronunciation

ah. Yeah, someone referenced So-crates early on in the discussion so I was only seeing it that way.

Yeah. it works.

I still like Furious George better.

Rasputin 08-26-2022 08:19 PM

Double didget sacks some will be from coverage sacks but he will also blow up a LT now and then and use techniques to get around him. This guy is going be fun to watch.

staylor26 08-26-2022 10:13 PM

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Jermaine Johnson II, DE

How he has fared so far: Unlike a lot of first-round picks, Johnson wasn't handed a starting job. The Jets have a deep defensive line, allowing them to bring him along slowly. Johnson said he practices "like an [undrafted] free agent, fighting for my life." The downside to that is he hasn't had a lot of reps with the starters. Johnson is trending toward the role of situational pass-rusher. They like his speed game; now they're trying to get him to play with power and develop more counter moves. -- Rich Cimini
.

RealSNR 08-26-2022 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16431435)
.

Vorch is an idiot for trading up for McDuffie and not making a move for Jermaine Johnson!!!!!!!!111

You know, sometimes on draft night I think dudes just look at the Jeremiah/Kiper rankings on the screen at a certain position and pound the table for the top dude at the position of need. And when the Chiefs pass on that guy, they lose their shit

Megatron96 08-26-2022 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16431288)
Double didget sacks some will be from coverage sacks but he will also blow up a LT now and then and use techniques to get around him. This guy is going be fun to watch.

Just ask CP; coverage sacks don't actually count. Only pussies count coverage sacks.

Rasputin 08-26-2022 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16431474)
Just ask CP; coverage sacks don't actually count. Only pussies count coverage sacks.

I have never heard that before but a Goddamn sack is a sack and he gets credit for the sack doesn't matter if it's coverage sack that means his motor is running, he could be double teamed so a coverage sack is a good thing because it's a ****ing sack.

JPH83 08-27-2022 12:16 AM

I know we're all excited about him but has anyone identified any areas they think he'll need to improve to hit his ceiling? Think it was DJ who talked of him not yet chaining moves. I was thinking he seems to go wide a bit too often and get washed out.

Not thinking of any of this as a negative, more just considering how much better he can get and where that will show up.

Tribal Warfare 08-29-2022 06:07 PM

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RealSNR 08-29-2022 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16431499)
I know we're all excited about him but has anyone identified any areas they think he'll need to improve to hit his ceiling? Think it was DJ who talked of him not yet chaining moves. I was thinking he seems to go wide a bit too often and get washed out.

Not thinking of any of this as a negative, more just considering how much better he can get and where that will show up.


Just beating the backup slapdick tackles we do face is a huge contribution. Nobody ever ****ing did that last year. As in when the matchup is favorable, you actually take advantage of the situation.

It’s ****ing embarrassing how good the dogshit Cincy OL looked against us both times last year

Rain Man 08-29-2022 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16431499)
I know we're all excited about him but has anyone identified any areas they think he'll need to improve to hit his ceiling? Think it was DJ who talked of him not yet chaining moves. I was thinking he seems to go wide a bit too often and get washed out.

Not thinking of any of this as a negative, more just considering how much better he can get and where that will show up.

From the little exposure that I've had, it seems like he kind of has one pass rush move. He pushes up wide, then spins. He needs to add an inside swim move and a straight-up bull rush soon at a minimum.

DrunkBassGuitar 08-29-2022 06:40 PM

Just call him The Greek, like the villain in season 2 of the wire

TwistedChief 08-29-2022 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 16435058)
Just call him The Greek, like the villain in season 2 of the wire

The Greek was a great character. There's no denying that.

But the guy just said himself in that video he prefers Furious George. Why is this still a discussion?

smithandrew051 08-29-2022 07:08 PM

At the end of the season, his official title will be “Super Bowl Champion”

Halfcan 08-29-2022 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16435067)
The Greek was a great character. There's no denying that.

But the guy just said himself in that video he prefers Furious George. Why is this still a discussion?

George Lynch approves of this name.

BleedingRed 08-29-2022 07:11 PM

I have some furious George memes ready

Megatron96 08-29-2022 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16431499)
I know we're all excited about him but has anyone identified any areas they think he'll need to improve to hit his ceiling? Think it was DJ who talked of him not yet chaining moves. I was thinking he seems to go wide a bit too often and get washed out.

Not thinking of any of this as a negative, more just considering how much better he can get and where that will show up.

The short answer is, 'who knows?'

The chaining his moves thing is definitely something he'll work on over the next three or four years, imo. But there's so much grey area it's pretty hard to tell what his eventually ceiling might be. Heck, next year his body is probably going to change fairly dramatically, just from the standpoint of diet and physical training. And what's that going to look like exactly? Will he come in at 245 or 265?

The point is that because he came from a smaller program he's probably not anywhere near his best physical shape/conditioning. Once he finds his NFL body, then we'll see what he really can become.

I think that as long as he keeps that supercharged core of his, he could be one of the great Chiefs power-rushers, maybe even in the NFL. Like Chiefs Ring of Honor great. Maybe HOF great, if he can stay healthy and keep working on his craft at an elite level. In spite of his shorter-than-normal arms and lack of bendiness.

Hammock Parties 08-29-2022 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16435067)
he prefers Furious George. Why is this still a discussion?

it's not

our players prefer the worst nicknames

"showtime"

"zeus"

"stone cold"

"furious george"

LMAO

and the only guy who had a GREAT nickname...****ING LEFT

Tribal Warfare 08-29-2022 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16435120)
it's not

our players prefer the worst nicknames

"showtime"

"zeus"

"stone cold"

"furious george"

LMAO

and the only guy who had a GREAT nickname...****ING LEFT

https://c.tenor.com/33EzbxFZQnEAAAAC...spaceballs.gif

It's Yogurt

ToxSocks 08-29-2022 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16431499)
I know we're all excited about him but has anyone identified any areas they think he'll need to improve to hit his ceiling? Think it was DJ who talked of him not yet chaining moves. I was thinking he seems to go wide a bit too often and get washed out.

Not thinking of any of this as a negative, more just considering how much better he can get and where that will show up.

Depends on what you mean by chaining moves. I watched a clip of him last game where he pushed the tackle into the QB and then used a speed move to finish him off and get the sack. Power to Speed as they say.

There's a couple of good videos out there talking about this very thing.

ReynardMuldrake 08-29-2022 08:52 PM

George "My Big Fat Greek pounding" Karlaftis

RealSNR 08-29-2022 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16435120)
it's not

our players prefer the worst nicknames

"showtime"

"zeus"

"stone cold"

"furious george"

LMAO

and the only guy who had a GREAT nickname...****ING LEFT

The Landlord was the worst one.

staylor26 08-29-2022 09:17 PM

Sausage was a great nickname

BleedingRed 08-29-2022 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16435313)
Sausage was a great nickname

Agreed

BleedingRed 08-29-2022 09:19 PM

I want mahomes to become full time grim reaper

BossChief 08-29-2022 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16434997)
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You can just tell this kid is going to be really special.

ChiefRocka 08-30-2022 05:36 AM

Super “Yee-Ro”

htismaqe 08-30-2022 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16435475)
You can just tell this kid is going to be really special.

Yep.

duncan_idaho 08-30-2022 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16435051)
From the little exposure that I've had, it seems like he kind of has one pass rush move. He pushes up wide, then spins. He needs to add an inside swim move and a straight-up bull rush soon at a minimum.


I think you need to watch him more.

He has used a straight bull rush several times and been successful with it.

RunKC 09-07-2022 02:30 PM

Nate Taylor said in the KCSN pod that you can go ahead and mark Karlaftis down for 7 sacks. That sounds like his baseline which is really good for a rookie

BleedingRed 09-07-2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16447870)
Nate Taylor said in the KCSN pod that you can go ahead and mark Karlaftis down for 7 sacks. That sounds like his baseline which is really good for a rookie

Hes going to have 10+

IMHO

Pitt Gorilla 09-07-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16447870)
Nate Taylor said in the KCSN pod that you can go ahead and mark Karlaftis down for 7 sacks. That sounds like his baseline which is really good for a rookie

In the two games against the Raiders or the entire season?


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