Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16794513)

Frank working with George in camp:

https://media.tenor.com/cSay-_yeYKcA...urn-around.gif

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16793667)

Here's my logic.

You win Super Bowls when you have an elite QB and a killer pass rush.

Karlaftis is ready to go for double digit sacks. Jones is likely to be extended if you ask me.

The Chiefs need one more bookend and he and Karlaftis will torture tackles for a decade.

That bookend does not exist in free agency, really. The bookend you need is probably in Round 1 of the NFL Draft. (And truth be told, he's probably at West Point.)

You're going to need that guy to have the best coaching available. He's going to get it with Joe Cullen, but Frank Clark plays an unmistakable part of that. Clark's tutelage has helped maximize Mike Danna beyond all of our expectations, and it's boosted Karlaftis' development.

I think Clark's play in the postseason is really important, but the thing that's completely irreplaceable is how valuable he is in bringing up young guys. He may be a difficult human being, but he's beloved in that locker room and they completely feed off his energy. When Clark is popping, the entire DL plays incredibly loose.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16795477)

Watching highlights fr M some of the PHI games this season, it occurred to me that Frank might be critical to KC winning the SB, but not necessarily by sacking Hurts. Though I fully believe he’ll somehow get a pair of them. 1.5 for Frank is my bet.

But his recognition skills could be a key deciding factor in this game, with PHI running so much option/RPO/etc. Among our EDGEs, only Carlos is as quick to diagnose who has the ball, but Frank has the edge in quickness and speed.

Not saying he’s a wizard at this, but he’s definitely an entire step above everyone else on the DL. And not getting duped every other snap is going to be crucial for the defense.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16795524)

Expect to see a LOT of Clark in a two-point stance.

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16795682)

What the hell is up with the "I'm here so I don't get fined" shit? Why?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16795641)

I think we may see Jones at DE more than we expect. Why not have Saunders/Williams/Nnadi do some almost 2-gap stuff to jam up the interior then utilize Gay and Bolton blitzing the A gaps on occasion.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16796528)

You think Spags is going to blitz Hurts and that OL?

I kinda expect the opposite. At least early on.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16796553)

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16796528)

You think Spags is going to blitz Hurts and that OL?

I kinda expect the opposite. At least early on.

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16796566)

Frank hasn't manscaped all season for this Sunday

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 16797798)

Was that the play where he got his first ever playoff sack in his 15th playoff game?

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16797804)

no, that's frank clark, who has more postseason sacks than everyone in NFL history save willie mcginest and bruce smith

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 16797806)

Yep. I ****ed that all up.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16797819)

How dare you confuse Frank Clark with some JAG like Chris Jones?

Let me try:

The best comparison for Joe Burrow is Matt Cassel. Case closed.

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 16797822)

It was an honest mistake dammit! I saw the #5 and got all jacked up to quickly type out my cute little jab! :#

Then i saw what i did and tried to delete it real quick but HP just haaaaaad to be johnny on the spot and point out my mistake! :banghead:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16797663)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They all counted me out but my dogs. The respect and love from your teammates outweighs all the hate you get from the opposition. I hit rock bottom and climbed back up to the top in a 2 year span. Never say never, just do that shit! <a href="https://t.co/IcHj7TNi3u">pic.twitter.com/IcHj7TNi3u</a></p>&mdash; Frank Clark (@TheRealFrankC_) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_/status/1624169471278714880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16801757)

Good job keeping contain on Hurts, ****nuts.

Originally Posted by Redbled (Post 16802747)

That and his penalty were two of the most critical plays.

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 16805078)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I love this man ��<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/jsD7AWQBPN">pic.twitter.com/jsD7AWQBPN</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1624983875049889797?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16807084)

Frank Clark no longer ****ing sucks.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16807114)

He sure sucked yesterday.

But this ain't the time....

Enjoy your ring, Clark.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16807114)

He sure sucked yesterday.

But this ain't the time....

Enjoy your ring, Clark.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16807156)

Hah, for sure. He had a huge offsides penalty that gave them a 1st down early on then did something else that slips my mind right now. I remember commenting that he was killing us at the time.

In my opinion, we've got four huge roster decisions to make this offseason:

1. Do we reduce Clark's cap hit and keep him around or cut ties altogether?
2. Brown Jr. Lots of options there.
3. Juan Thornhill. Make him a priority to re-sign or let him test FA?
4. Do we get a head start on extending Chris Jones?

The others I could go either way, but to me, the Clark decision is the easiest. I think we cut him altogether and look to re-tool the DL like we did with the CB room and the OL the year before that.

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16807181)

He had a couple plays where he rushed straight up the field and broke contain...which led to a running lane for Hurts to pick up chunks of yards.

But to answer your questions...

1. He either needs to take a drastic pay cut or you just cut him.
2. Brown Jr is getting a new deal and at this point...it's the best option.
3. I would honestly let him see what's on the market and then bring him back if he isn't getting the deals he wants. I've been a fan of his since the beginning but you can't pay everyone.
4. We should be working on an extension with Jones this offseason. Lower his cap hit this year and keep him here for the rest of his career.

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16807181)

He had a couple plays where he rushed straight up the field and broke contain...which led to a running lane for Hurts to pick up chunks of yards.

But to answer your questions...

1. He either needs to take a drastic pay cut or you just cut him.
2. Brown Jr is getting a new deal and at this point...it's the best option.
3. I would honestly let him see what's on the market and then bring him back if he isn't getting the deals he wants. I've been a fan of his since the beginning but you can't pay everyone.
4. We should be working on an extension with Jones this offseason. Lower his cap hit this year and keep him here for the rest of his career.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16825576)

Matt Verderame was at the Super Bowl and said that Patrick, Kelce and Jones all said how much they loved Frank and how much he helps and means to the team and why they want him back.

Man…tough scene for the “Frank sucks and brings no value” thinkers. Pretty sure they’ll work something out with him to come back.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16825576)

Matt Verderame was at the Super Bowl and said that Patrick, Kelce and Jones all said how much they loved Frank and how much he helps and means to the team and why they want him back.

Man…tough scene for the “Frank sucks and brings no value” thinkers. Pretty sure they’ll work something out with him to come back.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16825598)

Frank Clark does suck.

And if his value is as a quasi-coach, mentor and buddy, put him on the staff.

But at least we've moved on from "Nobody sets an edge like Frank Clark - he's just doing his job!!" to something even MORE nebulous and impossible to quantify in "hey, he's tight with the boys...."

Y'all are so desperate to justify paying this guy more than any other player on the roster over the last 4 years that you're just gonna keep grabbing at any floating logs that come your way, aren't ya?

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16825615)

Well his cap hit was just North of $13 million this year. That’s less than half of what the top guy (Joey Bosa) cost against the cap for 2022.

Obviously he’s not coming back at $28.6 million. If (when?) he restructures to half that number like he was last year then it’s fine with me.

If they let him go I’m cool with that too. Veach has my trust.

Originally Posted by TNTEICHER (Post 16825623)

Frank is only worth a bout a quarter of what Bosa is at this point.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16825615)

Well his cap hit was just North of $13 million this year. That’s less than half of what the top guy (Joey Bosa) cost against the cap for 2022.

Obviously he’s not coming back at $28.6 million. If (when?) he restructures to half that number like he was last year then it’s fine with me.

If they let him go I’m cool with that too. Veach has my trust.

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16826738)

Frank Clark is a mobster and I don't think we win the Super Bowl without him

Imagine having someone like Frank who balls out so hard in the playoffs that he is 3rd all time in postseason sacks, and then thinking about letting him go somewhere else ROFL

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16825598)

Frank Clark does suck.

And if his value is as a quasi-coach, mentor and buddy, put him on the staff.

But at least we've moved on from "Nobody sets an edge like Frank Clark - he's just doing his job!!" to something even MORE nebulous and impossible to quantify in "hey, he's tight with the boys...."

Y'all are so desperate to justify paying this guy more than any other player on the roster over the last 4 years that you're just gonna keep grabbing at any floating logs that come your way, aren't ya?

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16829696)

Guess the only real question is - first ballot or no?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Run yo own race, at yo own pace. <a href="https://t.co/baFE1P2a6i">https://t.co/baFE1P2a6i</a></p>&mdash; Frank Clark (@TheRealFrankC_) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_/status/1630315998770348032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16829724)

His playoffs stats say 'yes.'

13.5 sacks over 13 playoff games started

1 PD, 1 FF, 40 tackles, 26 solo, 16 TFLs, 20 QB hits.

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16829762)

Oh hush it. Dan Sorenson had more dominant plays than Frank ever had. Don't see anyone clamoring for him lol.

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16831289)

There was a discussion recently about the Chiefs being barely under the cap now and how that happened when they had around $15M recently. Well, apparently Frank Clark earned a LOT in incentives. Look at this.

Last offseason, Clark agreed to a contract restructure that cleared more than $12.6 million in cap space. Only time will tell if Clark will be open to something similar in 2023. According to Spotrac, his 2022 restructure contained incentives that allowed him to earn an additional $6.8 million for last season — $1.5 million of which was tied to the Chiefs' postseason success.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16829724)

His playoffs stats say 'yes.'

13.5 sacks over 13 playoff games started

1 PD, 1 FF, 40 tackles, 26 solo, 16 TFLs, 20 QB hits.