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Hootie 07-27-2015 09:44 AM

Without Gordon, add Prado here are our lineups :

Against RHP:

Esky SS
Moose 3rd
Cain CF
Hosmer 1B
Morales DH
Rios RF
Prado 2B
Perez C
Dyson LF

Against LHP:

Esky SS
Moose 3rd
Cain CF
Hosmer 1B
Morales DH
Rios RF
Prado LF
Perez C
Infante 2B

Infante has hit at a .670 OPS clip against lefties so he'd be a positive WAR player in that case. This basically platoons Infante/Dyson and keeps Dyson in the lineup against RHP where he is a big time WAR player between his fielding and baserunning.

Jerm 07-27-2015 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 11621177)
Yes. The price tag will be higher than Cueto. No way you pay that for a bench player.

See that's why I asked...didn't really know what exactly we'd have to give up to give him.

Hootie 07-27-2015 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 11621177)
Yes. The price tag will be higher than Cueto. No way you pay that for a bench player.

First off, Zobrist would be an every day player (as would Prado). Secondly, this is why I prefer Prado. If Glass opened up his checkbook, we could have Prado for free essentially.

Sure-Oz 07-27-2015 09:51 AM

Prado gets 11 mill next year so marlins would have to add cash to the deal

Hootie 07-27-2015 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11621194)
Prado gets 11 mill next year so marlins would have to add cash to the deal

Clearly. Plus, we'd probably have to cut loose Infante or try and trade him while eating half off that monstrosity in 2016 (if not all), as well

Mecca 07-27-2015 09:53 AM

Why would Beane think he could get that for Zobrist? He didn't even get that for Kazmir.

WhawhaWhat 07-27-2015 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11621196)
Clearly. Plus, we'd probably have to cut loose Infante or try and trade him while eating half off that monstrosity in 2016 (if not all), as well

They have him for 2017 as well, plus a $2 mil buyout on his 2018 option. Essentially $17.75 mil for the next 2 years. No way they are getting rid of him unless they eat most of that deal.

duncan_idaho 07-27-2015 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11621184)
Without Gordon, add Prado here are our lineups :

Against RHP:

Esky SS
Moose 3rd
Cain CF
Hosmer 1B
Morales DH
Rios RF
Prado 2B
Perez C
Dyson LF

Against LHP:

Esky SS
Moose 3rd
Cain CF
Hosmer 1B
Morales DH
Rios RF
Prado LF
Perez C
Infante 2B

Infante has hit at a .670 OPS clip against lefties so he'd be a positive WAR player in that case. This basically platoons Infante/Dyson and keeps Dyson in the lineup against RHP where he is a big time WAR player between his fielding and baserunning.

I like these a lot. Prado isn't as good as Zobrist, but the utility and quality he can add really help.

Hootie 07-27-2015 09:59 AM

I don't think Beane can get a Cueto level deal for Zobrist but I think he can get what he got for Kazmir for Zobrist. He's just got so much versatility and he's a plus bat.

Fairplay 07-27-2015 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11620983)
How do you still throw 95mph after doing that? Wow.
Posted via Mobile Device

Cueto doing the juke move before he throws.

ROFL

wazu 07-27-2015 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 11621197)
Why would Beane think he could get that for Zobrist? He didn't even get that for Kazmir.

It's the market this year. Lots of pitching available. Zobrist tops the list of bats and he plays infield. We aren't getting him. The Royals made the smarter move and gave up less to get an ace.

I think the Royals are also in denial about Infante.

Hootie 07-27-2015 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11621204)
I like these a lot. Prado isn't as good as Zobrist, but the utility and quality he can add really help.

and he has another year of control (albeit expensive)

if we can get Miami to eat 1/3 of his contract we can afford to eat 1/2 of Infante's contract (or the whole thing, if necessary) to move him or cut him loose next year

if we acquire Prado that has to mean the end of Infante in 2016

Hootie 07-27-2015 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 11621210)

I think the Royals are also in denial about Infante.

No, they just owe him a lot of money. Unfortunately, the Royals aren't the ****ing Dodgers who can throw a metric shit ton of money at everything and see if shit sticks. If it doesn't, they can just eat entire contracts and not give a single **** about it. The Dodgers literally never have any risk in anything they do. It's what I hate about baseball.

With our success and sellouts we can afford to eat Infante's entire contract if necessary ... but I'm thinking there is a team out there that would take him on as long as we ate 50% of his salary assuming we landed Prado.

Prado is the guy I want over Zobrist because he is a better defender and helps us in 2016, too

penbrook 07-27-2015 10:13 AM

Per Anthony DiMoro

#Royals determined to land #Athletics Ben Zobrist in trade

wazu 07-27-2015 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11621228)
Per Anthony DiMoro

#Royals determined to land #Athletics Ben Zobrist in trade

Woah


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