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Bambi 01-16-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10373826)
They're gullible saps, that's why Alden schedules like he does.



Interesting Pomeroy data today: KU is #1 SoS there as well. The average rated team we have played is #63 which also happens to be.....Mizzou. Incredibly, our avg opponent thru 16 games is Mizzou. And we are 12-4.

I think what that means is that KU should schedule MU.

Prison Bitch 01-16-2014 04:24 PM

What's really interesting Bambi is Pomeroys "luck" rating shows us at 291/351 schools, or very unlucky. With 3 losses in the final ten seconds, his data suggests with normal luck we'd have one extra win.



So really he's suggesting that if we played Mizzou every game this year and no bad luck occurred, he'd expect us to be 13-3 vs them.

Scott Pilgrim 01-16-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10373525)
Mizzou does not do the same shit with SLU. SLU does not have a long, running rivalry series (one of the top ones in the nation, and certainly one of the most heated) with Missouri like Kansas does with Mizzou.

It's apples to orangutans.

SLU was better than Missouri last year. Congrats. But it was not better the year before, or the year before that, or the year before that, and that doesn't make it a better overall program.

Funny how SLU really ramps up the talk about playing Mizzou in the 1-2 years every decade it actually has a good team. Where was this talk/outrage in 2010/11?

SLU is welcome to come play Missouri in Columbia, and that has been discussed. The problem is that SLU wants an equal home-and-home series, and Missouri only has a few slots for those, especially since the SEC is a weaker league than the Big 12 and the nonconference schedule needs to be more difficult as a result. It aims higher than A10 schools for those, generally. UCLA, N.C. State, Cal, Illinois, etc.

They've even talked about a 3-for-1 or 2-for-1 deal, but SLU got pissy, apparently.

We'll see how they survive the post-Majerus era. 5 of their top 6 scorers are gone after this year. Can Crews replace that talent?

I would say the biggest change in the program was the on campus arena/practice facility. that building has changed everything and it aint going anywhere. the current freshman class is as good as all but one of RM obviously they are not the minutes due to starting 5 seniors (the one great RM class) but they are shining when out there. I would bet the farm that SLU will be back in the tournament not next year (losing 5 seniors starters does that) but the next. with Mizzou's generally weak non conference schedule there is no reason not to do a 1-1-1 one game in both home arenas and one in Scot trade or more than likely the dome. lot of money to be made for both programs

Scott Pilgrim 01-16-2014 04:35 PM

and yes U and Mizzou should be playing out of conference pointlessly losing money guys lets all just be rich

greatgooglymoogly 01-16-2014 05:07 PM

I'd rather see MSU play teams that will give us a game in Springfield anyway, like Arkansas and OK State. Mizzou recruits different players and plays road conference games in a different region. There's really no reason for our paths to cross at this time.

Sassy Squatch 01-16-2014 05:16 PM

LMAO Kansas fans jerking each other with RPI and SOS. Dontnforget about luckiness too. I guess when you're just another 12-4 team in the rankings you gotta compensate somehow.

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-16-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 10373924)
LMAO Kansas fans jerking each other with RPI and SOS. Dontnforget about luckiness too. I guess when you're just another 12-4 team in the rankings you gotta compensate somehow.

12-4 and #1 RPI... but this is definitely a "down" year for Kansas thus far.

Most of KU's rivals would take that as their best year.

blake5676 01-16-2014 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10373866)
What's really interesting Bambi is Pomeroys "luck" rating shows us at 291/351 schools, or very unlucky. With 3 losses in the final ten seconds, his data suggests with normal luck we'd have one extra win.



So really he's suggesting that if we played Mizzou every game this year and no bad luck occurred, he'd expect us to be 13-3 vs them.

What neither of you idiots EVER understand is that no sane Mizzou fan would think we are a better basketball team than you. Some twisted reasoning/projection shows you winning 13 out of 16? Congrats!! It's probably pretty close to accurate, unless we were to steal a game or two bc we play over our heads for a rivalry game. You argue with yourselves and then give each other handies...it's quite funny.

Rams Fan 01-16-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10373525)
Mizzou does not do the same shit with SLU. SLU does not have a long, running rivalry series (one of the top ones in the nation, and certainly one of the most heated) with Missouri like Kansas does with Mizzou.

It's apples to orangutans.

SLU was better than Missouri last year. Congrats. But it was not better the year before, or the year before that, or the year before that, and that doesn't make it a better overall program.

Funny how SLU really ramps up the talk about playing Mizzou in the 1-2 years every decade it actually has a good team. Where was this talk/outrage in 2010/11?

SLU is welcome to come play Missouri in Columbia, and that has been discussed. The problem is that SLU wants an equal home-and-home series, and Missouri only has a few slots for those, especially since the SEC is a weaker league than the Big 12 and the nonconference schedule needs to be more difficult as a result. It aims higher than A10 schools for those, generally. UCLA, N.C. State, Cal, Illinois, etc.

They've even talked about a 3-for-1 or 2-for-1 deal, but SLU got pissy, apparently.

We'll see how they survive the post-Majerus era. 5 of their top 6 scorers are gone after this year. Can Crews replace that talent?

2010-2011 was a season straight out of a hell. At least two of the team's top players were involved with alleged rape(which I believe turned out to be a false claim of rape as Mitchell was cleared and redshirted that season) and that was Majerus' only season under .500 as HC in 20+ years as a HC. Ever.

I think Crews has made huge strides in recruiting. Yes, the recruiting class from last year isn't great, but that's due to staff not recruiting in the fall due to Majerus' absence.

SLU has 3 commits so far for next year, 1 of which should be an immediate upgrade over the projected starting center next year(Manning or Agbeko). Next year, Crews has to show how SLU can play with his players. Losing Jett, Evans, Loe, and McCall is definitely a huge blow, but I think at least Loe can be replaced(I like how he's progressed, but that doesn't mean he isn't replaceable). Losing Evans might hurt more than Jett, but Jett's defensive game is pretty damn good. And his offensive game has improved as well.

Losing Barnett shouldn't be a problem either, though he has played better as of late.

But, there's no reason for Mizzou to play SLU, unless it's at a neutral court(i.e: Sprint Center, though it would probably be predominantly Mizzou basketball fans).

Rams Fan 01-16-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Pilgrim (Post 10373881)
I would say the biggest change in the program was the on campus arena/practice facility. that building has changed everything and it aint going anywhere. the current freshman class is as good as all but one of RM obviously they are not the minutes due to starting 5 seniors (the one great RM class) but they are shining when out there. I would bet the farm that SLU will be back in the tournament not next year (losing 5 seniors starters does that) but the next. with Mizzou's generally weak non conference schedule there is no reason not to do a 1-1-1 one game in both home arenas and one in Scot trade or more than likely the dome. lot of money to be made for both programs

There's absolutely no benefit for Mizzou playing SLU in St. Louis, even at Scottrade.

I do agree with your point about Chaifetz Arena, though. It creates a much better atmosphere for SLU games. While it usually doesn't sell out until later in conference play, it at least seems more filled than playing at the larger Scottrade Center.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-16-2014 07:31 PM

@JayhawkSlant: BREAKING: DE Daniel Wise picks #KU over offers from Texas Tech, Missouri, Colorado and others http://t.co/GbbqL0My17 #kufball

TambaBerry 01-16-2014 07:38 PM

The butt hurt from mu fans is hilarious.

RustShack 01-16-2014 07:40 PM

The Bubu Palo situation at Iowa State is crazy.

greatgooglymoogly 01-16-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10374158)
@JayhawkSlant: BREAKING: DE Daniel Wise picks #KU over offers from Texas Tech, Missouri, Colorado and others

From Hebron HS in Carrollton, TX. Rivals says he's from Lewisville. Two lakes nearby and DFW airport is just the right distance away. The ball they play in that area is so good that unranked players still attract BCS-level interest.

TribalElder 01-16-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10374169)
The butt hurt from mu fans is hilarious.

nobody gives a **** about KU or basketball ROFL


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