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Saul Good 05-01-2011 08:09 PM

This is amazing. If Cleveland plays .500 ball the rest of the way, they win the division.

duncan_idaho 05-01-2011 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7612142)
No. It's because we have a guy in the minors who just won the triple crown, and he's not even close to being our best 1B prospect.

The Royals look at Robinson pretty much the same way they looked at Kila... he's a prospect with some big question marks but good minor league production (side note: If either Moose or Hosmer play all season at AA, Robinson doesn't win the HR crown).

Might as well play out the string with Kila and make sure he's not going to do his usual "It takes me one full year to be worth anything at this level" thing.

alnorth 05-01-2011 08:32 PM

I'm calling it now: Minnesota and Chicago are both out. The AL Central is Cleveland's to win, with Detroit and KC chasing them.

Since the 1930's, 246 teams were 6 or more games back by May 1. 5 of those teams came back to win their division. (~2%) The Twins and White Sox aren't 6 games back, they are TEN freaking games back. It is really tough to get that far back by the end of April.

I don't think KC wins this division, but lets suppose Cleveland ends up not being as good as they look now and start losing games? In that case, our division ends up being completely terrible and 84 games might win it. Throw in some key callups after the all-star break, and who the hell knows.

SPchief 05-01-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 7612113)
Even if it takes Moose a while we should be fine with Aviles/Betemit as Utility players, especially if Getz can keep hitting a little bit. If Getz can't hit then Aviles at 2nd and Betemit at 3rd and we need a utility player. \

Then again Moose could break out of it and be up by July.

You could atleast cite or quote Rany for this

Saul Good 05-01-2011 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7612248)
I'm calling it now: Minnesota and Chicago are both out. The AL Central is Cleveland's to win, with Detroit and KC chasing them.

Since the 1930's, 246 teams were 6 or more games back by May 1. 5 of those teams came back to win their division. (~2%) The Twins and White Sox aren't 6 games back, they are TEN freaking games back. It is really tough to get that far back by the end of April.

I don't think KC wins this division, but lets suppose Cleveland ends up not being as good as they look now and start losing games? In that case, our division ends up being completely terrible and 84 games might win it. Throw in some key callups after the all-star break, and who the hell knows.

One thing that we have going for us is that Davies is so terrible. Replacing him with one of the youngsters immediately makes us a markedly improved team day 1. The guy is one of the worst starting pitchers in the history of the game, and we are above .500 while running him out there every five days.

This team has about a 1 in 5 chance of winning the division, IMO. Cleveland is legit, but they will come back to earth a bit at some point. Our rotation could include Mazzaro, Duffy, Lamb, and Montgomery at some point this season, and our lineup will include Hosmer.

What if Cleveland comes back to Earth? What if Hosmer comes up and rakes? What if our rotation is Hochevar, Montgomery, Lamb, Mazzaro, and Duffy? What if Escobar starts hitting just a little bit?

If our infield becomes Betemit, Escobar, Aviles, and Hosmer, I think that's just enough punch to work. Escobar's glove is phenomenal, and Hosmer's defense should make up for below-average gloves at second and third.

If we play 2 games under .500 from now until June 1st, I don't think it's that far-fetched to hope that we could be a better team the last 4 months of the season.

DeezNutz 05-01-2011 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7612601)
If we play 2 games under .500 from now until June 1st, I don't think it's that far-fetched to hope that we could be a better team the last 4 months of the season.

No question.

Guarded optimism, but this could turn into one hell of a fun summer. (Wonder what number Starling will wear?)

Mama Hip Rockets 05-01-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 7612122)
move Ryan shealy to first and Dh Desi Reliford

ROFL

BWillie 05-02-2011 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7612248)
I'm calling it now: Minnesota and Chicago are both out. The AL Central is Cleveland's to win, with Detroit and KC chasing them.

Since the 1930's, 246 teams were 6 or more games back by May 1. 5 of those teams came back to win their division. (~2%) The Twins and White Sox aren't 6 games back, they are TEN freaking games back. It is really tough to get that far back by the end of April.

I don't think KC wins this division, but lets suppose Cleveland ends up not being as good as they look now and start losing games? In that case, our division ends up being completely terrible and 84 games might win it. Throw in some key callups after the all-star break, and who the hell knows.

I'm calling it now. Minnesota at least 2nd. Would not be surprised to see them win it.

Saul Good 05-02-2011 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7613592)
I'm calling it now. Minnesota at least 2nd. Would not be surprised to see them win it.

What have you seen from Minnesota that makes you think they are going to make a run at the division? They Royals just pounded them into submission. They have a 10 game stagger to overcome, and I haven't seen any sign of life from them.

keg in kc 05-02-2011 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7607427)
I'm tired of people saying Kila is done. He's batting like .210 after 75 abs. So what. Why do people flip their lid over a small sample size. I'm sure it's getting high enough to have a possible correlation but give the guy some time. Pretty sure Alex Gordon batted like .120 after 150 abs a few years ago and he's doing great now.

Anybody know any 75 ab chunks from good players last year that they bat .210 w/ a .315 obp. I bet there were quite a bit.

He's up over 250 at bats if you include last year (when he batted .217 in 180 abs). This may be what he is. I wouldn't run him out of town on a rail just yet, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't turn out to be anything but a AAAA hitter. That's pretty much what I've always expected, but I'd love for him to be more. More talent is never a bad thing.

Mama Hip Rockets 05-02-2011 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7613741)
What have you seen from Minnesota that makes you think they are going to make a run at the division? They Royals just pounded them into submission. They have a 10 game stagger to overcome, and I haven't seen any sign of life from them.

Joe Mauer and Delmon Young on the disabled list makes a huge difference. The Twins could very well come back from this. The division is weak.

sedated 05-02-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7607427)
Why do people flip their lid over a small sample size.

today on 610, Fescoe was calling for Dayton to start making moves - not only bringing the young guys up, but trading for starting pitchers. "The Royals are in the race at the end of April, they don't get these opportunities every year, gotta take advantage".

This isn't really significant, except that he is a complete moron, and I hate him.

RockChalk 05-02-2011 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 7613884)
today on 610, Fescoe was calling for Dayton to start making moves - not only bringing the young guys up, but trading for starting pitchers. "The Royals are in the race at the end of April, they don't get these opportunities every year, gotta take advantage".

This isn't really significant, except that he is a complete moron, and I hate him.

Sums up Fescoe nicely

Demonpenz 05-02-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 7613884)
today on 610, Fescoe was calling for Dayton to start making moves - not only bringing the young guys up, but trading for starting pitchers. "The Royals are in the race at the end of April, they don't get these opportunities every year, gotta take advantage".

This isn't really significant, except that he is a complete moron, and I hate him.

One thing if you have watched Nathan and Mornau play is that you are not guar·an·teed the same Gordon or the same Butler next year, they could get hit in the face by a ball or some crazy shit. So it would be nice to make a run this year.

KChiefs1 05-02-2011 09:01 AM

Are we buying Gordon now?


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