One name..Trent Dilfer...

I understand that you're trolling and that you've never seen a complete game that Smith has played.

Andrew Luck never took a snap in the NFL before 2012. Must not be what Andy wants in a QB. Sorry.

So that makes him the #1 pick??? Are you guys ****ing kidding me??? He's never faced and NFL defense...wow..

Okay. I'll play.

Geno's record was 7-6 his senior year.

He went for:

369/518
4205 yards
71.2% completion
42 TDs
6 Ints
163.9 rating

That's what Geno has done. That's a Heisman level season. That's as good as Luck and Griffin's final seasons. That's ridiculous level stuff. And that's not good enough? Especially when you factor in that the WVU was simply atrocious.

117 out of 124 in scoring defense.
122 out of 124 in passine defense.
38.1 point per game given up.

Geno was playing from behind in nearly every single game, forcing throws to keep his team in games and he still passed for a 71.2%?! That's nuts. The guy played his balls off all season, put up record breaking stats, has all the intangibles and that's not enough for you? You want a tackle who wasn't even the best offensive lineman on his own team rather than what Geno offers? JFC.

Oh, and if a win-loss is so important to you, do you recall what was Elways win-loss records every season he started at Stanford?

Neither has any draft prospect in history. Or in the future.
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In other words, you can't provide a legitimate critsism, other than team record.


How many games did John Elway win at Stanford?

Plenty of players don't go to the Senior Bowl. None of them play on it even when they do go.

Different NFL. If you can't understand that then it explains why you don't get it. Dilfer could not win a SB in today's NFL.

I think the QB at #1 trolls are far more successful than any Cassel troll campaign LA Chieffan ever tried to wage.

There are just so many of them that aren't always identifiable. munkey is a poster who never was on the Geno wagon, but his dumbassery in this conversation leads me to believe he genuinely is trolling now.

It's like the barbarian tribes nibbling away at the Roman empire. So hard to pinpoint all the trolls and ignore them.

I've stated this MANY times...he needs to blow up the combine..until then don't expect me to jump on the Geno wagon..as Andy said.. I good QB raises the play is his team mates...not a good record in college to indicate so...

It became obvious nobody really still believed in Cassel. Harder to distinguish trolling from stupid Chiefs fans because there are 1) so many of them and 2) a ton that will always believe you build the Oline before getting the QB

Name me one college QB that has faced an NFL defense.

You realizat his defense allowed 40+ points per game in his losses right? Hard to win when your team is doing that. Ask Trent Green.
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You are a pretty shitty troll.

You argue that you need an offensive line to win, but when the Chiefs fielded one of the best offensive lines in football and never won a playoff game you say it was because of the lack of defense.

You point out that Geno Smith went 7-6 in his senior year (after going 10-3 in his junior year and winning the BCS Orange Bowl over a heavily favored Clemson team) and 9-4 his sophomore year. Which means Geno Smith has never had a losing season in his three years as a starter at West Virginia and has an overall W-L record of 26-13.

And yet you fail to realize that the WVU defense in 2012 was ranked 117th out of 124.

You are arguing against yourself.

This is the kind of question people who have no clue about talent ask because it then just becomes a simple question to answer based on generic positional importance. It's all just random luck so let's swing for a QB, the most important position of all.

People who do this professionally, actually assess the quality of the individual players before making a choice in the draft. If they assess the LT and the QB to be equally talented (with equal needs at the positions), they'll end up picking the QB just like you want. The only reason they would pick Joeckel ahead of a QB would be if they decided the quality differential was great.