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BIG_DADDY 06-21-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Do greens even have a party line :shrug:. They are what I most closely identify with when one looks at my political leanings, but I vote democrat because I see it as the lesser of two evils. A Machiavellian bastard I no doubt am.

What conservative values do you have?

vailpass 06-21-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut
Forgive me for holding your opinion in extremely low esteem after reading your paleolithic views on countless issues.

But yeah, I'M DIFFERENT! OH NOES! That means I'm warped and twisted and a serial killer and completely unfit to hold an opinion about anything!

Watch out, vail! Them gays is gonna git ya!

Questioning the mental stability of someone who wants a house-call from Lorena Bobbit does not make me afraid of gay people.
It would, however, make me extremely nervous to drink out of the same cup as you.

You remind me of a dude I went to grad school with. One morning we walked out front to find out he had jumped off the top of the dorm to splatter himself on the walk-way we took to class.
Hopefully you are getting help and don't have this sort of issue; however your behavior is similar to his and I admit it weirds me out.

noa 06-21-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
What conservative values do you have?


Are you suggesting that Republicans are actually conservative? Maybe on a few issues, but the whole, political conservatives who stand by their ideals are hard to find.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-21-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
What's funny is Hamas always bitching about the right wanting to legislate morality and being intolerant and then he goes and does the same thing. He would like to see legislation passed to force young kids to be exposed to homosexuality before they should even be thinking about that shit even when the majority of parents would be opposed. On top of that he has the audacity to call other hypocrites.

Yeah...no. I defended the right of a teacher to tell a story that had openly gay characters in it because it is a natural occurrence in our society as well as nature. I never said I wanted legislation, I wanted to curb the attempts of religious zealots and other bigots from imposing their narrowminded superstitions on all of us. There is nothing wrong with being gay, it's just as natural as are blue eyes or black skin. The fact that it has been stigmatized by our society to the extent it has makes people *think* that children can't be exposed to it. I think you would know that children can be the most tolerant of all people, it is only when the stulted viewpoints of their elders are imposed on them that they become the next generation of bigots.

BIG_DADDY 06-21-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by noa949
Are you suggesting that Republicans are actually conservative? Maybe on a few issues, but the whole, political conservatives who stand by their ideals are hard to find.

No I am just trying to show just how far left of Stalin Hamas actually is wasn't that obvious? :shrug:

Ultra Peanut 06-21-2006 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
Questioning the mental stability of someone who wants a house-call from Lorena Bobbit does not make me afraid of gay people.
It would, however, make me extremely nervous to drink out of the same cup as you.

You remind me of a dude I went to grad school with. One morning we walked out front to find out he had jumped off the top of the dorm to splatter himself on the walk-way we took to class.
Hopefully you are getting help and don't have this sort of issue; however your behavior is similar to his and I admit it weirds me out.

I can't imagine why someone who's spent their entire life seeing irrational hatred, ridicule, and fear of people like themselves would ever be the slightest bit suicidal.

The funny thing is, that guy you mentioned may very well have been a monumental freak like me. Suicide rates for monsters such as myself are estimated to be in the region of 60% -- but I'm sure people like you who consider us to be psychos and prefer to insult rather than understand have nothing to do with that, or anything. It's not like anyone would fare better if they thought people wouldn't hate them for no reason, right?

God forbid anyone expect a basic level of human decency from you when they're a little bit different. Constant potshots and insults are definitely the way to prove you're a swell person. :thumb:

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-21-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
What conservative values do you have?

I'm obviously not a libertarian green :shake: I said 'most closely identify', not a mirror reflection of.

The four pillars or four principles of the Green Parties are:

Ecology - ecological sustainability
Justice - social responsibility
Democracy - appropriate decision-making
Peace - non-violence

Let the hair-splitting commence.

BucEyedPea 06-21-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Do greens even have a party line :shrug:. They are what I most closely identify with when one looks at my political leanings, but I vote democrat because I see it as the lesser of two evils. A Machiavellian bastard I no doubt am.

This does not surprise me. Yes, they do have a party line.
If you saw their platform and read it for the 2000 election it is pure communism: equal pay for all, no borders, collective ownership of corporations, free health care for all etc. etc. etc. It's all about abolition of private property and protecting the "commons" as collective ownership so we can all return to living in nature like one big tribe.That's why they're the extreme environmentalists and get labelled watermelons...green on the outside and red on the inside.

You're clearly a communist Hamas. You might as well admit it. I can spot them. So far I've met two on the net...who admitted it at one point. I actually became friends with them both eventually. I even dated one years ago. I am very familiar with their stands. So long as your not the kind that wants it through violent revolution I can live with it...so long as I can refute it and identify it. Not really trying to pick on you.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-21-2006 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
No I am just trying to show just how far left of Stalin Hamas actually is wasn't that obvious? :shrug:

Your and idiot. Stalin was an authoritarian and a socialist, which makes him very far to the right on the libertarian orientation of a political compass and far to the left on the other. To insinuate that he is just left is plainly ridiculous. I also don't like that you are lumping me in with a guy who made Hitler look bush-league in genocidal comparisons.

BIG_DADDY 06-21-2006 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Yeah...no. I defended the right of a teacher to tell a story that had openly gay characters in it because it is a natural occurrence in our society as well as nature. I never said I wanted legislation, I wanted to curb the attempts of religious zealots and other bigots from imposing their narrowminded superstitions on all of us. There is nothing wrong with being gay, it's just as natural as are blue eyes or black skin. The fact that it has been stigmatized by our society to the extent it has makes people *think* that children can't be exposed to it. I think you would know that children can be the most tolerant of all people, it is only when the stulted viewpoints of their elders are imposed on them that they become the next generation of bigots.

It's not anybody's right as a teacher to expose young children to anything controversial. It is the parents right to NOT have their young children exposed to that especially at a young age. You say it's natural that is your opinion and I respect that. You need to respect others opinion that it's not natural and may be a sin. This is a two way street Hamas. BTW you had no problem with California passing legislation to put gay history in our school books remember?

Baby Lee 06-21-2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut
I can't imagine why someone who's spent their entire life seeing irrational hatred, ridicule, and fear of people like themselves would ever be the slightest bit suicidal.

The funny thing is, that guy you mentioned may very well have been a monumental freak like me. Suicide rates for monsters such as myself are estimated to be in the region of 60% -- but I'm sure people like you who consider us to be psychos and prefer to insult rather than understand have nothing to do with that, or anything. It's not like anyone would fare better if they thought people wouldn't hate them for no reason, right?

God forbid anyone expect a basic level of human decency from you when they're a little bit different. Constant potshots and insults are definitely the way to prove you're a swell person. :thumb:

C'mon UP, there's World Cup coverage going on. Don't waste that wanking with a Donko shit-stirrer.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-21-2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea
This does not surprise me. Yes, they do have a party line.
If you saw their platform and read it for the 2000 election it is pure communism: equal pay for all, no borders, collective ownership of corporations, free health care for all etc. etc. etc. It's all about abolition of private property and protecting the "commons" as collective ownership so we can all return to living in nature like one big tribe.That's why they're the extreme environmentalists and get labelled watermelons...green on the outside and red on the inside.

You're clearly a communist Hamas. You might as well admit it. I can spot them. So far I've met two on the net...who admitted it at one point. I actually became friends with them both eventually. I even dated one years ago. I am very familiar with their stands. So long as your not the kind that wants it through violent revolution I can live with it...so long as I can refute it and identify it. Not really trying to pick on you.

Thank you JoAnna McCarthy...I was joking about the Greens...it's pretty hard to have a party line when it doesn't really have any national influence :shake:. While we're at it, let's tie me to a stake and burn me as a heretic.

JBucc 06-21-2006 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
While we're at it, let's tie me to a stake and burn me as a heretic.

ok

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-21-2006 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
It's not anybody's right as a teacher to expose young children to anything controversial. It is the parents right to NOT have their young children exposed to that especially at a young age. You say it's natural that is your opinion and I respect that. You need to respect others opinion that it's not natural and may be a sin. This is a two way street Hamas. BTW you had no problem with California passing legislation to put gay history in our school books remember?

Because god knows, I remember taking HISTORY CLASSES in kindergarten.

Ultra Peanut 06-21-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
C'mon UP, there's World Cup coverage going on. Don't waste that wanking with a Donko shit-stirrer.

I was bored, and dealing with vail's ignorant shit is preferable to cleaning out the litter box that I've been avoiding.

But yeah, it is a pointless task, in the end. He adds about as much to this site as a 404 error.


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