Dane has pretty much said anything I was going to say.

Even if Cassel shits the bed against the Chargers it doesn't change anything. So did Manning. What really matters is the whole body of work. If the guy has a 30 TD - 10 INT season, uhhhhh he's our guy. STFU about drafting some guy or trading for someone else. This whole "the numbers lie" stuff is bullshit at this point in the season. Do some of you **** faces understand that? Sure, numbers can lie for a few games, but not over the course of a whole ****ing season. If he goes 3400 for 30 TD's and 8-10 picks, his numbers are bullshit? **** you. That's insane and ****ing stupid to reach like that.

I think Cassel will continue to ascend as well. I think he's probably our guy and some people better ****ing get used to it.

This will definitely show where he's truly at ! And nice article. Hey , I was on the Cassel Sucks bandwagon too. It's OK to change opinions. Cassel changed so we can too.

I will say it again.

1 game is not going to say what/where Cassel is. It's so ****ing stupid I can't believe some of you are really hanging your hat on that.

He wanted the Chiefs to stop winning IN SPITE of Cassel who was failing in order for him to get fired. Yes. This is exactly what I've been saying this whole time. If logic was water, your mind would be the Sahara desert.

First, you're dead wrong.

Second, you've found 1 post from 1 member on a forum that hosts over 10,000 members.

One poster saying something that you can't comprehend doesn't make it universally so.

Your argument is full of holes, and pointless.

Move on.

I will agree he is our guy by default. He's the best option we have and he's played well enough this season to assure himself of that bonus he's owed. However I still dont believe that we'll do anything beyond a playoff berth with him under center.

Cassel has shown incredible progress. I think people are just going to look at his mechanics during the SD game. If the Chiefs lose the game but Cassel doesn't revert to locking onto one receiver, shitting himself under pressure and running away at the slightest sign of pass rush and throwing ****ing ducks, people will remain hopeful for the future.

Look man, here is the post. It has nothing to do with Cassel failing. The guy just doesnt think Cassel can win a ring....Please, it is painfully obvious you didnt read this thread....so here, here it is.


If you can't acknowledge that this guy wanted the CHiefs to lose games to get rid of cassel....Then I really can't say much more. You are looking at the same words I am. The guy made this post THIS MONTH.

I haven't read this thread and just jumped to the last page.

So I'm not sure exactly what the discussion is, but there were definitely people on this board who flat out said they would prefer the Chiefs get blown out of games if it meant that Cassel would be shown the door.

Who said one game defines everything?

I've seen people say that it will have a huge influence - and it should - he's never won a meaningful game, much less on the road in a must win situation.

You're right, we all need to get used to him as the QB, because he's going nowhere.

That doesn't mean he's capable of leading this organization to a championship.

If at some point, he wins a big game against a playoff caliber team, especially on the road, I think more people will believe that he "might" be the answer.

Until then, he' still just a guy with gaudy stats earned against the bottom of the NFL barrel.

FWIW, I'm praying this guy becomes a franchise QB and wins us a SB.

Would it be safe to say that most Cassel haters here were Trent haters too? I like(d) them Both. I like the leadership and intangibles they offer. Trent had an awful first year in KC.. 24 ints if i recall correctly.

I agree with that but...I also think that if our D can hold the Chargers to less than 24 points and we run for over 130 yards Cassel will probably hold up his end of the deal.

It's a team sport deal with it.

Very much this.

A lot of people didn't think he'd progress like he has this season either.

If someone told you after 11 games that Cassel would have 22 Td's and 4 picks you would have said bullshit.

We have a top 5 QB for the 2010 season. Can he continue that learning curve upward? I think he has a good chance. He's a hard worker and wants to win. That goes a long ways.

I mean, I have to remind myself that even after a very solid first season at OLB some people here said Hali had already reached his ceiling and wasn't very good. So......

Yes. Once again, Cassel was failing as the QB with no signs of progress at the time. I'm assuming the post was made before the AZ game. A failure of a QB would not be able to win a SB and as such the guy was half-willing (on ONE HAND) to sacrifice ONE season in order to get a chance at a franchise QB who might eventually lead us to the promise land. You're dense, bro. I mean ****ing 'neutron star' dense.