Manning is our best option. It's just money, and we are so far under the cap that money can't be an excuse.

We are not going to trade up in the draft or do anything but make a safe pick. Pioli says they want to draft QBs every year, but he means they want to draft low round QBs and experiment with them.

Manning is our only hope with this administration!

Sooo much fail in this thread. Wow. Now RG3 is a "punk", next they'll say he should be moved to wideout.

Clausen has no upside. Never has. Never will. You are completely deranged (other than realizing that Tannehill and Osweiller are both fourth round guys at best).

(I still am utterly fascinated by this boards obsession with Tannehill. What the hell has he ever done to merit first round consideration? He went into the tank against every single decent defense he played against this past season.)

As I have always said, there are elite qbs. And there are franchise qbs. Ben, Brady, brees, peyton, Rodgers. They are elite. Qbs like Green and Matt Ryan are franchise qbs. They are very good qbs who can win you super bowls if you give them a good supporting cast. Our lack ofbpkayoff success almost certainly would have Ben reduced if we were even bad at drafting (as opposed to flat out terrible)
If we are building our team on the 10% chance we get an elite qb, we are screwed.

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Hooray, a Sac post I can agree with. 1 year starter...no thanks. The track record is as bad as picking a late rounder and expecting them to pan out.

He didn't have his starting rb. His left tackle was Jordan black bad. He had one legit receiver in Steve Smith who was mailing it in. His career isn't over. It has a downward arrow bit that's not something I care about if we are talking about a throwaway option. Indeed zero potential in cousins or foles, who are the next best options.

You get what I meant.

Manning hasn't thrown a ball in over a year. There were the rumors that he's left with a noodle arm because of the nerve damage in his neck.

Besides the fact that he's 36, and coming off of, let's count them, one, two, three and four, neck surgeries.

I love the guy. One of the best ever. But he's 36 years old (as of March 24th) and has had multiple neck surgeries.

What do you think you are going to get from this guy at this point? Besides a massive salary cap hit and another two year delay in drafting and developing a young quarterback?

Pocket presence, reading defenses, and anticipating receiver routes don't go away with neck surgeries. If he's healthy enough to play, he's far and away the best option.

Barry Richardson is our right tackle.

You can scratch pocket presence. You can probably add another neck injury to it as well.

Manning has never worked with our receivers or with Daboll.

So much for anticipating routes.

They guy can definitely read defenses though.

Manning hasn't thrown in over a year. He hasn't worked with a team in over a year. He's behind the curve on conditioning.

He's effectively six games away from being "Peyton Manning" given a full off-season with a new team - providing that he can even still play after this latest neck surgery.

Manning, the 2012 free agent, bringing Chiefs playoff glory, is a bigger pipe dream than us trading up for Bobbie Griffin.

No. A franchise QB isn't somebody you get a few good years out of. Green doesn't compare to Matt Ryan, who will probably still be playing 8-10 years from now.

Qb's drafted in first round since 2000+

2000 - 1-18 - Chad Pennington (Jets)
2001 - 1-1 - Mike Vick (Falcons)
2002 - 1-1 - David Carr (Texans)
2002 - 1-3 - Joey Harrignton (Lions)
2002 - 1-32 - Patrick Ramsey (Redskins)
2003 - 1-1 - Carson Palmer (Bengals)
2003 - 1-7 - Byron Leftwich (Jaguars)
2003 - 1-19 - Kyle Boller (Ravens)
2003 - 1-22 - Rex Grossman (Bears)
2004 - 1-1 - Eli Manning (Giants)
2004 - 1-4 - Philip Rivers (Chargers)
2004 - 1-11 - Ben Roethlisberger (Steelers)
2004 - 1-22 - JP Losman (Bills)
2005 - 1-1 - Alex Smith (49ers)
2005 - 1-24 - Aaron Rodgers (Packers)
2005 - 1-25 - Jason Campbell (Redskins)
2006 - 1-3 - Vince Young (Titans)
2006 - 1-10 - Matt Leinart (Cardinals)
2006 - 1-11 - Jake Cutler (Broncos)
2007 - 1-1 - JaMarcus Russell (Raiders)
2007 - 1-22 - Brady Quinn (Browns)
2008 - 1-3 - Matt Ryan (Falcons)
2008 - 1-18 - Joe Flacco (Ravens)
2009 - 1-1 - Mathew Stafford (Lions)
2009 - 1-5 - Mark Sanchez (Jets)
2009 - 1-17 - Josh Freeman (Bucs)
2010 - 1-1 - Sam Bradford (Rams)
2010 - 1-25 - Tim Tebow (Broncos)
2011 - 1-1 - Cam Newton (Panthers)
2011 - 1-8 - Jake Locker (Titans)
2011 - 1-10 - Blaine Gabbert (Jaguars)
2011 - 1-12 - Chris Ponder (Vikings)

Notables Drafted outside 1st.

2000- Marc Bulger 6-168
2000- Tom Brady 6-199
2001- Drew Brees 2-33
2003 - Tony Romo - Undrafted
2004 - Matt Schaub 3-90
2011 - Andy Dalton 2-35

Ok, so how many Franchise Qb's from this list? Also, how many of these QB's were so called sure things to excel in the NFL. How many have panned out.

Let me know if having to get RGIII is worth trading away 3 firsts and multiple picks in the next 2 drafts. I think not.

Regardless of the last 40 year history we have had to endure- Its stupid to trade away too much for an unknown. If we could give up 2 firsts and a 3rd and a 5th id do it in a heartbeat. I wont be pissed if the redskins or browns actually give up what they are saying they will. And yes, do I feel "Next year we will do something about the QB situation" will piss people off - but if you are smart (and I think Pioli is) being Cap friendly and having young quality pieces in place year in and year out - we will eventually hit on a QB that we can call franchise in the future and we will be GREAT for 10+ years. Its not worth creating cap hell, losing pieces in the future for a gamble.

Again, I expect us to start using our first rounders for QB's - but im not willing to trade the farm on gambles, because if we countinue doing what we are doing, if we make a mistake on the gamble, we can try again, and still be in the same friendly (Cap and young pieces) situation we were when we tried the first time.

Anyways, my 2 cents. And i really do think this is what we are building towards.

We can all pretty much stop talking about Barry Richardson right now. He won't be back and we'll have an upgrade. So he's a non factor.

Peyton was throwing to backs and receivers after practice since week 11 of last season and now throws the whole route tree.

Stick to the facts.