How bout he doesn't judge the injuries that happen to others, as well as what happened to him, dictate his decision. Anything he should consider is the teams players conduct off the field as well as drug allegations or suspensions that could cost the team a better chance at winning. Denver have those issues. Its not something I think Manning wants in the locker room.

I hope that's true. I hope we cut him, he goes to the Arena League and puts up those #'s.

There's a big difference between wanting to cut an aging and descending player because of his on-field production, and essentially embarrassing the hell out of the player by refusing to meet and giving up the "22 players off the street" bullshit.

It's about tact and handling business with class, not ego.

And, yes, I'm aware that Haley was the mouth piece of the bravado. What I'm saying, however, is that when this happened, there were many on here willing to justify the actions of the new regime. For example, how many trashed Whitlock for claiming that Egoli was too brash?

Could be that it comes back to haunt us.

I'm all about cutting ties with descending players; that's smart business. But the NFL is a small world, and a bit of organizational humility can go a long way to establishing strong ties league-wide.

I just hope we cut Cassel. I couldn't give a flying **** what he does afterwards. I just want him gone. Now.

With no running game to speak of, minimal time with the team and a few other factors....Orton came in and basically did what it took to win 3 games and threw for 300 or so yards in each game.

I wouldn't be mad if we were forced to see what he could do if Moeaki and Charles return healthy along with an improved line and defense.

I don't agree that he is in the "trash" category, nor do I think he is the answer.

If we aren't gonna be in position to draft a legit first round quarterback and we swing and miss on Manning, I'm ok with Orton for a year and then a big trade up next year to get our guy.

I missinterpreted. That's plenty fair enough. And frankly, mouth piece or not, Pioli is the piece of shit in the new regime. I'm sure we can agree on that much. If Manning doesn't give us a meeting, I put it squarely on him.

You don't want Manning though, do you? I'm in the any****ingbody but Cassel camp myself.

Regardless of what they've done since, cutting Waters and trading Tony G were the right moves for this team.

Reeplacing Waters with Lilja, and failing to address the O-Line and TE depth adequately over the 3 years Piloi has been here were poor decisions on top of good decisions.

That's all assuming they aren't gonna give Stanzi a legit shot.

Soooo...

...has his flight landed in Arizona yet?

I'm of two minds:

1. It's extremely reminiscent of '93, and I would expect similar results. Unfortunately, this wouldn't result in a SB. It's just pretty damn hard to get over the hump, and often times organizations have to build toward a championship. With 36-year QBs, you don't have much time to build.

2. That said...what's the other alternative? Cassel? **** that. Orton? **** that. Draft a potential franchise QB? LMAO. Our management doesn't know what the **** that is.

So I'm basically looking at it as Manning offers the best of the realistic options.

Same here. Right now we are in a pretty ****ed up situation from a QB standpoint. Peyton is the best option.

Yep.

That looks like just one mind to me, Mr. DeezNutz. Or, perhaps more accurately, two facets of the same desired outcome in your mental head space place.

If anything good comes out of this, it might just be that the Chiefs FO will finally get it through their thick skulls that the fan base believes Cassel to be a dead end car crash into an elderly woman's living room leaving the place in ruins with old lady parts, Barcalounger parts, and television parts flying everywhere while half a pair of support hose somehow wound up stuck on the radio antenna.

The next few weeks will be informative so far as Pioli's attitude toward all this goes.

Meanwhile, has there been any news on Orton? Any interest anywhere for that guy?

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Cap hit too big, but a # 3 back up this year is fine.:D

I thought we could cut him with no cap effect whatsoever ... you know, because the guaranteed money has already been paid out.

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