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DaKCMan AP 04-02-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8511750)
It is a flavor experience. That is all. You apparently experience a little sugar differently than I do.

They're not as separated as you'd like to think they are. When you taste something that is sugary & sweet it sends the signal to your brain which releases the dopamine to let you know that it tastes good and is safe to eat. The 60 minutes segment last night discussed and pointed this out.

RealSNR 04-02-2012 12:49 PM

http://pull.imgfave.netdna-cdn.com/i...651719645.jpeg

Hey dudes, check it out. A Cadbury cream egg cheesecake.

I just ate a whole one of these, and I'm still diabetes-free. Toxic my ass.

DaKCMan AP 04-02-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8511753)
lol ... just giving you shit

but you can't control it, dude ... you just can't

sugar triggers a chemical response in your body that tells your brain to "like it"

sugar
salt
fat

see how much you like food without these three things.

Kids love french fries because they cooked in fatty oil, have salt dumped on them and they dipped them into Ketchup, which has sugar in it.

Exactly. Your brain tells you that you like it and want to eat it - because it contains sugar.

Mr. Laz 04-02-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8511762)
Purple Passion? :D

a 6-pack of grape flavored cold duck was my first drunk and my first 3-way kissing with 2 senior girls. :clap:

tis all good

but lets be honest, if people didn't get buzzed they wouldn't drink. There would be no point to drink alcohol instead of much tastier drinks.

The same with candy, if it didn't give you a sugar spike then you wouldn't eat it.

DumbHillbillies 04-02-2012 12:57 PM

Yep, I'm in. I have been cutting sugar intake, fat intake and working out for the last 7 months. Transformed from pudgy to fairly lean. I had a trainer for the 1st few months and he said you can eat just cut out sweets. He's 47 and in great shape.

Imon Yourside 04-02-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8511788)
a 6-pack of grape flavored cold duck was my first drunk and my first 3-way kissing with 2 senior girls. :clap:

tis all good

but lets be honest, if people didn't get buzzed they wouldn't drink. There would be no point to drink alcohol instead of much tastier drinks.

The same with candy, if it didn't give you a sugar spike then you wouldn't eat it.

I'm polishing off some organic Chocolate Chip cookies as we speak..friggin' dopamine inducing' sugar high if i ever had one. ;)

htismaqe 04-02-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8511760)
Alcoholic drinks generally taste nasty and wouldn't be consumed at all without the buzz.

I MUCH prefer the taste of a strong German beer when I eat red meat. It has nothing to do with being buzzed as I stop consuming them when the food is gone. It is strictly a flavor combination.

htismaqe 04-02-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8511727)
doesn't matter whether it's new or not, it's true.

for years the food industry has used simple sugar to get people addicted to their food products. It can't be talked about enough.

Christmas candy
valentine's day candy
Halloween candy

Get them hooked early so you can make billions off of selling crap with sugar sprinkled on it.

sugar is the devil when it comes to nutrition ... it just is.

all these 800lb people on jerry springer don't exist without sugar spikes.

I ABSOLUTELY agree. I just don't get the reaction to this 60 Minutes piece when it's not only not new, it's 10-year old advice AT LEAST.

Mr. Laz 04-02-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8511810)
I ABSOLUTELY agree. I just don't get the reaction to this 60 Minutes piece when it's not only not new, it's 10-year old advice AT LEAST.

some people aren't paying attention and it's a surprise.

Hell ... there is a thread around here some place where Mecca is telling me how sugar isn't a problem and doesn't spike your blood sugar or some such bullshit.

sugar makes you feel false hungry so if you trying to lose weight the first things you should do is eliminate all simple sugars and increase exercise.

candy
cakes
sugar drinks (hell, they sneak sugar into most drinks)
white pasta
white bread
red sauces
ketchup
etc,etc

weight loss should come pretty naturally then

Frosty 04-02-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8511810)
I ABSOLUTELY agree. I just don't get the reaction to this 60 Minutes piece when it's not only not new, it's 10-year old advice AT LEAST.

The food reward aspect is fairly new, especially in the public eye. Food reward is much more than eating because food tastes good; there is a neurological aspect to it, as explained in the last part of the 60 Minutes piece. Not everyone is susceptible to it, just like not everyone who goes to Vegas becomes addicted to gambling (there are similarities between food reward and gambling and drug addiction).

Here's a nice rundown on food reward.

Plain sugar all by itself isn't particularly rewarding. Sit down with a bag of white sugar and a spoon and you'll get tired of it pretty quickly. Put that sugar in water and add some flavoring and it is much easier to put it away. To make sugar really rewarding, combine it with fat (like pretty much all junk food).

A really good book on food reward is The End Of Overeating. It details how food reward works on our brains and how modern food manufacturers engineer their foods to take advantage of it so that we buy more and more of their products.

Frosty 04-02-2012 01:41 PM

By the way, the cancer section on the 60 Minute piece is pretty weak. It's true that some cancers have more insulin receptors but the idea that insulin spikes cause the cancer to grow is still pretty controversial. The guy they talked to didn't offer any proof other than some computer animation.

Besides, sugar (as in sucrose and HFCS) is actually fairly low GI since it made up of about 50% fructose and fructose doesn't enter the blood stream as glucose (it's turned into triglycerides in the liver which are either used for fuel or stored as fat). If high blood sugar spikes are the problem, then reducing starch like potatoes and bread would make more sense than just looking at sugar since they convert more readily to glucose in the blood.

Sannyasi 04-02-2012 03:10 PM

It took a 60 minutes special for Buck to learn that sugar is bad for you, and now he thinks he is a dietary expert.

htismaqe 04-02-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8511881)
some people aren't paying attention and it's a surprise.

Hell ... there is a thread around here some place where Mecca is telling me how sugar isn't a problem and doesn't spike your blood sugar or some such bullshit.

sugar makes you feel false hungry so if you trying to lose weight the first things you should do is eliminate all simple sugars and increase exercise.

candy
cakes
sugar drinks (hell, they sneak sugar into most drinks)
white pasta
white bread
red sauces
ketchup
etc,etc

weight loss should come pretty naturally then

Yep. The fact that simple carbs are detrimental to weight loss is self-evident to anybody that monitors caloric content. In fact, balanced nutrition in general is pretty obvious. Foods with complex carbs, good fats, and/or protein have lower calorie content in general and cellulose fiber has no calories at all. By contrasts, most bad fats and all simple carbs are simply loaded with easily-digestible calories.

Saulbadguy 04-02-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 8512083)
It took a 60 minutes special for Buck to learn that sugar is bad for you, and now he thinks he is a dietary expert.

Pretty much.

Thig Lyfe 04-02-2012 05:01 PM

I've eaten nothing but Pixie sticks for 20 years and I feel perfectly fine!


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