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Just Passin' By 09-04-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8877788)
Yes he is.


Siler isn't a better tackler, toss place is far from homer central.
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When people are posting that Siler misses 1 tackle in every 141 attempts and Johnson misses 1 tackle every 104 attempts, BlackBob is not the one getting smashed.

Also, tackle numbers along don't prove you're a good tackler. They just prove you're prolific. Those aren't necessarily the same thing.

I agree that his homer argument is pretty ****ing stupid, though.

Ming the Merciless 09-04-2012 06:28 PM

How many pro bowls does siler have?

the Talking Can 09-04-2012 06:30 PM

Other things Siler is better at than DJ:

Tetris
sitting on benches
blowing out achilles
making it rain at Hooters
signing vet minimum contracts
impressing morons
folding laundry
picking up gum wrappers at arrowhead
getting cut
carrying DJ's helmet

KCUnited 09-04-2012 06:31 PM

Siler's achilles weeps at this thread.

Black Bob 09-04-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8877814)
I agree that tackles in and of themselves arent that meaningful, but did you read the article/stats that pestilence showed you?

Yeah but he still misses tackles. I never said he shouldn't be on the field. I just said Siler is a better tackler. That means nothing to me.

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Derrick Johnson won the Dick Butkus trophy and the Bronco Nagursky trophy

Which one did siler win?
Siler played in the SEC where everyone can tackle.

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Lol, that's not very homer. Ray has lost a step.

Stop and actually think about what you are saying.

At this point DJ IS better than ray Lewis.
Then DJ shouldn't miss more tackles by their logic right? Then why did he?

Hammock Parties 09-04-2012 06:31 PM

Uh, do you even realize what 141 vs 104 means?

It means Brandon Siler misses one tackle every two games, more or less, if he was a starter.

It means Derrick Johnson misses one tackle every two games.

It's a negligible difference.

And since Brandon Siler hasn't played more than 387 snaps in a season the last FOUR ****ING YEARS, using missed tackle stats to elevate him over DJ, who plays 1,000 snaps a year, is pretty clueless.

RealSNR 09-04-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8877777)
we're really having to convince someone that siler is just a scrub backup....when he is actually DJ's scrub backup?

It's worse than that. He's Belcher's scrub backup.

Ming the Merciless 09-04-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 8877835)
When people are posting that Siler misses 1 tackle in every 141 attempts and Johnson misses 1 tackle every 104 attempts, BlackBob is not the one getting smashed.

Did you see what pestilence posted?

Its all about the stops....

SAUTO 09-04-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 8877835)
When people are posting that Siler misses 1 tackle in every 141 attempts and Johnson misses 1 tackle every 104 attempts, BlackBob is not the one getting smashed.

Also, tackle numbers along don't prove you're a good tackler. They just prove you're prolific. Those aren't necessarily the same thing.

I agree that his homer argument is pretty ****ing stupid, though.

siler is a backup for a reason. He isn't too good.

I know you probably don't see all the games, but this is a case of the numbers not relating the truth, IMO.

DJ gets to a lot of players and gets his hands on them a lot when a guy like siler would have never gotten close...
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Black Bob 09-04-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8877837)
How many pro bowls does siler have?

DJ is a better player. He just isn't as good of a tackler. If you think he is, then bet me.

Ming the Merciless 09-04-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8877848)
Then DJ shouldn't miss more tackles by their logic right? Then why did he?

He didnt -

they both had about 1 missed tackle for every 10 they made

SAUTO 09-04-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8877848)
Yeah but he still misses tackles. I never said he shouldn't be on the field. I just said Siler is a better tackler. That means nothing to me.



Siler played in the SEC where everyone can tackle.



Then DJ shouldn't miss more tackles by their logic right? Then why did he?

DJ missed three more tackles than ray in 200 more attempts.

Ray was worse last year, I don't see how you can debate that...
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BigMeatballDave 09-04-2012 06:34 PM

Black Knob polisher is either amazingly dense, or this is the most successful troll performance ever.

Black Bob 09-04-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8877854)
siler is a backup for a reason. He isn't too good.

I know you probably don't see all the games, but this is a case of the numbers not relating the truth, IMO.

DJ gets to a lot of players and gets his hands on them a lot when a guy like siler would have never gotten close...
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NO SHIT. I have been saying that the whole time. McGraw was a better tackler than Lewis but, guess what? I wanted Lewis to start.

It is not uncommon for back ups to be better at fundamentals than starters. NFL starters are generally play makers. That's what makes them the best of the best.

Hammock Parties 09-04-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8877858)
DJ is a better player. He just isn't as good of a tackler.

Where is the evidence that Brandon Siler is a good tackler?


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