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Dave Lane 09-16-2012 10:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8919263)
This will, no doubt, bring out the haters en masse ... but, I still like Haley.

I have a lot of reasons, but I generally liked his attitude toward the game. I'm not so sure about the paranoia and the need to make his personal calls from a burn phone, but I think he will have a long and successful career in the NFL.

Frankly, it is my view that Haley was probably the best decision Pioli has made to date. Things would likely have turned out much better for everyone if Pioli had been more supportive and helpful ... as opposed to deceitful ... and under-cutting his own freaking coach.

FAX

Completely agree. I think Pioli drove him to near madness.

mnchiefsguy 09-16-2012 10:11 PM
Kent Babb finally writes a decent article for the Star. Shit has got to be bad, or maybe he just does not give a crap since his new team is on the upswing.

NJChiefsFan 09-16-2012 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8918917)
It's alot more than that. It's Bowman, Aldon Smith, and Justin Smith too. They built a good o-line and got lucky with their QB. They were built well. It's more that than anything imo.
Got lucky with the #1 overall pick?

Bowser 09-16-2012 10:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8919263)
This will, no doubt, bring out the haters en masse ... but, I still like Haley.

I have a lot of reasons, but I generally liked his attitude toward the game. I'm not so sure about the paranoia and the need to make his personal calls from a burn phone, but I think he will have a long and successful career in the NFL.

Frankly, it is my view that Haley was probably the best decision Pioli has made to date. Things would likely have turned out much better for everyone if Pioli had been more supportive and helpful ... as opposed to deceitful ... and under-cutting his own freaking coach.

FAX
One thing is for certain - Pioli and Haley just were not meant to work of th esame team.

Dave Lane 09-16-2012 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8919274)
One thing is for certain - Pioli and Haley just were not meant to work of th esame team.
The gambler and the Mr. I'll walk 5 blocks out of my way so I don't even have to walk through a casino were oil and water.

FAX 09-16-2012 10:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8919274)
One thing is for certain - Pioli and Haley just were not meant to work of th esame team.
ROFL

Nope. We got that figured out. Those two crazy bastards probably couldn't ride in the same car without causing multiple fatalities.

FAX

Otter 09-16-2012 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8919300)
ROFL

Nope. We got that figured out. Those two crazy bastards probably couldn't ride in the same car without causing multiple fatalities.

FAX
I picture Haley pulling sand out of nowhere, throwing it in fat Scott's eyes and going for the elbows....while driving.

Sorry but I liked Todd.

BryanBusby 09-16-2012 10:20 PM
Jack Harry is about to start ripping on the Chiefs, and I think this ones gonna be good.

Before even starting, he's compared the current team to the Franz Gansz era.

Damn, best line: "This team is a bunch of pansies"

Ace Gunner 09-16-2012 10:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8919263)
This will, no doubt, bring out the haters en masse ... but, I still like Haley.

I have a lot of reasons, but I generally liked his attitude toward the game. I'm not so sure about the paranoia and the need to make his personal calls from a burn phone, but I think he will have a long and successful career in the NFL.

Frankly, it is my view that Haley was probably the best decision Pioli has made to date. Things would likely have turned out much better for everyone if Pioli had been more supportive and helpful ... as opposed to deceitful ... and under-cutting his own freaking coach.

FAX
Yep

whoman69 09-16-2012 10:26 PM
Different coach, same result. I am more convinced than ever that its the players and has always been the players. This team certainly has more talent than the team that Pioli inherited, but we are always dealing with those things that Pioli just will never address. First and foremost, this team lives down to its capabilities of its QB. Next we have a defense where in our base defense against the pass we have 4 guys who are going to have no impact. We are essentially only playing defense with 7 guys. Third, we are so far under the cap and yet we have holes with depth and positions where we have people on the field that really shouldn't be in the NFL. Last year it was RT and depth at safety. This year we brought in a good RT and a bunch of cheap safeties in FA. We didn't look forward to where we might be crumbling.

I think Pioli can be a good GM, but he's got to change some things. He needs an owner that is going to demand that he get out of his Patriot way comfort zone. He needs an owner that is going to read him the riot act when he says that drafting a first round QB is just too risky. He needs an owner that is going to tell him to spend the money.

This whole thread should be titled "Scott Pioli is not going to win with this organization if Clark Hunt is the owner."

DaneMcCloud 09-16-2012 10:32 PM
Todd Haley was worthless. Not only could he not manage coaches corretly, he couldn't manage players, either. He was a hothead that could not control his emotions and just like Pioli, Peter-Principled into the position of head coach.

Good ****ing riddance.

kcxiv 09-16-2012 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8919300)
ROFL

Nope. We got that figured out. Those two crazy bastards probably couldn't ride in the same car without causing multiple fatalities.

FAX
Haley should have never took the job when the QB was forced on him. I like Haley, but Pioli ****ed up and so did Haley. Should have hired the coach first, then see who the coach likes as a qb, then went from there.

Otter 09-16-2012 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8919385)
Todd Haley was worthless. Not only could he not manage coaches corretly, he couldn't manage players, either. He was a hothead that could not control his emotions and just like Pioli, Peter-Principled into the position of head coach.

Good ****ing riddance.
At least he was entertaining in a Jersey Shore type of way. Now it's like watching a old soft guy pat players on the head and tell them "it's OK" after colossal failure like it's his grandchildren and not 20 something millionaires.

Their certainly not doing any better.

Dylan 09-16-2012 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8918096)
Its gotta be way more than that.

If its only 200 bucks, Ill chip in the first 50 if you guys want to take out a full page ad on the wholesale changes that need to be made.
Sunday full page ad: $73,458

Broadsheet = 126 column inches @ $583 per column inch ROP

http://media.kansascity.com/static/a...ional_2011.pdf

FAX 09-16-2012 10:40 PM
So the only person in KC who can afford to run an ad calling for Pioli's firing is Pioli?

That just isn't right.

FAX


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