On the positive side of the ledger, continuity is an important factor in the NFL. There seems to be a correlation between long-tenured leadership and winning. That mainly applies to HCs, though.

By the way, has anyone taken the time to compare Carl's first 4 years to Dr. Evil's first 4?

If my drug-addled memory hasn't failed me entirely, it seems like I read somewhere that Carl got off to a pretty good start here in KC ... both in terms of the draft (DT) and the coach (MS) ... before things began to wane over the next two decades, of course.

It would make for an interesting article in the Star, I think. A good hook for Babb, maybe.

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IIRC, or remember reading correctly, Carl walked into a pretty good situation, much the same as Pioli.

Carl's first 50 games: 31-18-1, 1-2 playoffs

Pioli's first 50 games: 21-29, 0-1 playoffs


Carl's worthwhile (contributor+) picks:

Derrick Thomas, Robb Thomas, Todd McNair, Tim Grunhard, Dave Szott, Tim Barnett, Charles Mincy, Dale Carter

Pioli's worthwhile (contributor+) picks:

Tyson Jackson, Ryan Succop, Eric Berry, Dexter McCluster, Javier Arenas, Jon Assamoah, Tony Moeaki, Kendrick Lewis, Rodney Hudson, Justin Houston, Dontari Poe


Carl wins W/L record.

Draft is a push.

Carl's best players blow Pioli's out of the water.

Pioli is slightly better at grabbing mediocre contributors. He's got fistfuls of Charles Mincys and Todd McNairs, and no Derrick Thomases or Dale Carters.


Wins over winning teams

Carl - 11
Pioli - 3

Pioli has drafted a bunch of guys that, in 3 years could be real difference makers.

Problem is, when he had a draft spot to grab a real difference maker, he shit out Tyson Jackson and Baldwin

Interesting, Mr. GoChiefs. And kind of funny. A couple questions for which I have no idea how to find the answers as I am the worst researcher on the Earth as we know it ...

1. What was the Chiefs record in the year(s) prior to Carl/DE? I wonder if we're talking about an even playing field, you know?

2. Didn't Carl hire MS in his first year on the job? If so, that compares very favorably to the Haley/Romeo hires.

3. Those draft picks you've listed ... those were selected during the 50 game period of time you're comparing? (I didn't word that very well, but you catch my drift, right?)

Assuming that both GMs started from a similar baseline in terms of existing players, record, etc., it appears that Carl takes the cake and DE locks the bathrooms. Pretty interesting, actually.

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Carls ways worked very well, when running the ball and playing defense were the way to go. Dunno what he would do know.


Apparently, Pioli is following the same method.

Oh ... and Szott and Grunhard were no slouches in my book. Have we drafted an o-lineman anywhere close to those guys?

Also, when was Neil Smith drafted? After the 4th year of Carl's tenure?

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Doing a 360 turn puts you right back on the same path.

He was drafted by the previous regime.

I can't believe some of you guys are talking about Carl Peterson. Just go away. Seriously. Go get drunk and jerk off over your high school sweet heart while your at it.

Pioli has drafted some guys who absolutely have the potential to become game changers. However, if they don't, isn't that even on him a little for putting the wrong people in charge to make it happen?

1. 4-11-1, 4-11, 10-6, 6-10

2. Yes

3. I've compared Carl's first four drafts to Pioli's first four. That's a little unfair to Pioli because DeQuan Menzie could be a Hall of Famer.

I'm still excited for this team and know they can turn it around, they have the weapons.

Not defending the Tyson Jackson pick, but getting a potential #1 receiver who we knew was a project and a force at the OLB with one first rounder? I'm not going to complain about that

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