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L.A. Chieffan 10-17-2012 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024177)
No, but most of the top 10 picks sucked that year. Jackson is no where near the worst out of the top 10. That draft was one of the biggest crapshoots of all time. I wanted Crabtree or Raji. Jackson was an out of nowhere pick but, it definately could have been worse. We could have wound up with Jason Smith or Aaron Curry. Alot of fans wanted one of those guys.
We also couldve wound up with Sanchez, Raji, Orakpo, Cushing, Mack, Maybin, Crabtree, Freeman, Maclin, Harvin.... all guys who shouldve legitimately gone before Tyson Jackson even in the context of the time.

Woodchuck 10-17-2012 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9024180)
I somehow expected better out of The Executive Of The Decade.
There is no doubt Pioli's a bust. Also, I agree about not giving Cassel a contract right away. He should have waited.

Slick, we traded for Cassel the same year Freeman was drafted so that wasn't going to happen.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024170)
We picked at #3 in 2009 because we were a horrible team in 2008.

We traded our 2nd round pick for a QB who just had an 11 win season. Do you really think we would have drafted a QB in the first round?

This is a stupid argument. Almost every position was a problem when Pioli got here.

Also, do you honestly think we would be any better off with Sanchez or Freemen?
Like I already stated in a previous post......he should have waited to trade for Cassel. And even if you eliminate the need for QB......which is more important to a 3-4....NT or DE? He should have drafted Raji instead of Jackson. Pioli is a ****ing moron.

PhillyChiefFan 10-17-2012 10:51 AM
Sad to think that at the time, Pioli was the best GM choice out there and most everyone was extremely excited to have him come to the Chiefs.

Woodchuck 10-17-2012 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9024190)
We also couldve wound up with Sanchez, Raji, Orakpo, Cushing, Mack, Maybin, Crabtree, Freeman, Maclin, Harvin.... all guys who shouldve legitimately gone before Tyson Jackson even in the context of the time.
Yep, that's the crapshoot I'm talking about. it's easy to see that now but, you gotta realize none of the top 10 teams had Orakpo, Cushing, Mack, Crabtree, Freeman, Maclin, Harvin on the radar there. Hindsight is 20/20.

Bewbies 10-17-2012 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024134)
He tried hard to trade back in 2009. It was well documented. We did trade back in 2011. Where are you coming from?
The only opportunity Pioli has had in his time here to get a QB was in 2009?

Micjones 10-17-2012 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9024114)
Pioli is acting like there was NOTHING better out there. He's dead wrong. There have been plenty of posts about the number of alternatives. Even if you eliminate certain ones.....we still had a shot at Andy Dalton and Josh Freeman. Both have done more (even if they lack consistency) than Cassel has ever done.
I have to listen to the full interview.
I'm on lunch so I'm going to do that now.

I wouldn't say Freeman's done more. He's had 1 good season in the NFL.
Cassel's had two. If we're arguing skillset...no question.

Dalton HAS been more consistent.
He's the best alternative to any of the others you cited.

The Bad Guy 10-17-2012 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024081)
Occassionally, owners intervene but never GMs. It doesn't work that way. This is the stupidest Pioli theory there is. If he did this, he would be fired immediately and he would never work as GM again.
Yep, you deserve defensive lineman every single year in the first round.

Don't worry about being lumped in with the Chiefs fans on this board, you don't even have the intelligence to even post here. No one will mistake you for someone with a ****ing clue.

HonestChieffan 10-17-2012 10:55 AM
The important trade the Chiefs have to consider is really simple. Fans or Scott.

The fact he is trotting around doing press meetings makes me sick. It tells me we are stuck with him. Not one more dime from me. FU Scott.

L.A. Chieffan 10-17-2012 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024202)
Yep, that's the crapshoot I'm talking about. it's easy to see that now but, you gotta realize none of the top 10 teams had Orakpo, Cushing, Mack, Crabtree, Freeman, Maclin, Harvin on the radar there. Hindsight is 20/20.
Can you read? I just said in the CONTEXT OF THE TIME.

Tyson Jackson was NOT a worthy top 10 pick in 2009

I heard reports of several GMs and war rooms that started laughing and snickering when that pick was made.

BigCatDaddy 10-17-2012 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9024195)
There is no doubt Pioli's a bust. Also, I agree about not giving Cassel a contract right away. He should have waited.

Slick, we traded for Cassel the same year Freeman was drafted so that wasn't going to happen.
Isn't that like sayin we traded for Jackson last year, gave Flynn a nice contract no way do we take a QB in the draft this year and start him.

Woodchuck 10-17-2012 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9024203)
The only opportunity Pioli has had in his time here to get a QB was in 2009?
No, what?

Micjones 10-17-2012 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9024142)
You're trolling. You have to be trolling.
I'm not. I'm suggesting that beating those two struggling teams isn't as impressive as it sounds.

One of those wins took the worst call in NFL history.

FAX 10-17-2012 11:01 AM
Guys ... this is bad. Real bad.

Just an FYI.

FAX

Woodchuck 10-17-2012 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9024231)
Can you read? I just said in the CONTEXT OF THE TIME.

Tyson Jackson was NOT a worthy top 10 pick in 2009

I heard reports of several GMs and war rooms that started laughing and snickering when that pick was made.
I see what you are saying but who did they take? We came out OK in the top 10 in my opinion.


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