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mcaj22 03-22-2013 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9520740)
It'll be interesting to see who the fans turn on first if a lot of sacks are given up.

Is it Jockel's fault for letting them through, or Smith's fault for holding onto the ball too long?
injury prone veteran QB behind inexperienced young offensive line

yep that screams 6-10 with Chase Daniel starting half the season

BossChief 03-22-2013 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9520748)
We're going to be coming dangerously close to replicating the major tenets of the Scott ***** plan, but rather than letting Albert walk, we'll receive some compensation.

Thus, Doreid have shown to possess at slightly greater common sense. But acquiring Alex Smith, at the price they paid, is asinine in every possible way, and this is a play directly from *****'s handbook of dumb****ery.

But we need to "give the new regime the benefit of the doubt," apparently. Why? No clue.
Because if they don't ignore the similarities, they have to deal with the reality.

Herds of posters are in the rationalizing state of this, dare I say, Process2.

mcaj22 03-22-2013 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9520860)
Why would they bite? How many LT's have you seen get traded for a 2nd round pick? Honest question, because i can't remember the last one.

LTs can be found in this draft....hell in every draft....Albert was a 17th overall iirc.

the answer to this is....


Andy Reid traded a 28th? overall first rounder for LT Jason Peters

ToxSocks 03-22-2013 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9520865)
the answer to this is....


Andy Reid traded a 28th? overall first rounder for LT Jason Peters
Ah ok. Yeah, i really didn't know.

KC native 03-22-2013 11:04 AM
Un****ing believable. **** this franchise.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-22-2013 11:04 AM
Alex Smith getting KTFOd wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Then we can pass on another crop of young QBs next year and have the same lively and original debate over QB prospects that we've had every year since 2009.

ptlyon 03-22-2013 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 9520867)
Un****ing believable. **** this franchise.
No shit. Just trade him to SF & get our shit back

Ace Gunner 03-22-2013 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9520860)
Why would they bite? How many LT's have you seen get traded for a 2nd round pick? Honest question, because i can't remember the last one.

LTs can be found in this draft....hell in every draft....Albert was a 17th overall iirc.

Every damn year there is some "elite" lt in the draft. Never fails....it also never fails that that LT is mocked to the Chiefs, lol.

And for the record, i don't think the Chiefs will trade Albert. I also don't think they will draft Joeckel.

If they do draft Joeckel, i think it'll be because they think they can't retain Albert, not because they think Joeckel is significantly better.

It smells like a cost cutting move.
well, ya :D Dane nailed it.

The Franchise 03-22-2013 11:10 AM
I'll take Kyle Long at LT over Luke Joeckel.

Chiefnj2 03-22-2013 11:10 AM
Why would any team give up that much for Albert when they know KC is caught between a rock and a hard place?

Things going against KC:
- There are still some quality tackles available in free agency where you don't have to give up two draft picks.
- If they don't take a tackle at 1.1 who else are they going to take? It isn't going to be a QB. They are going to use a #1 on Milliner, or a questionable DT? This draft sucks to have the #1.
- Albert's back spasms may spook teams from having to give a big paycheck and draft picks.
- If they take a tackle and Albert is on the roster KC has essentially drafted a RT (for the year), or they are dealing with a disgruntled Branden.

BigCatDaddy 03-22-2013 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9520856)
That's understandable and I would love to have Fisher too, but here's what we should realize.

What players in this draft are better pure football players than Joeckel or Fisher?

Those 2 are easily the best in this class.
Geno? You know the guy all of the teams in the top 10 that need a QB are salivating over.

kcfanXIII 03-22-2013 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9520665)
TE and WR not better? QB is ten times better
False

DTLB58 03-22-2013 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9520517)
so they are trying to use Albert to recover the cost of Alex Smith?
Appears so. From this story. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...randen-albert/

The Chiefs will seek a second-round pick in this year’s draft as well as another pick in 2014 in a trade for Albert, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports. We don’t yet know what that other pick in 2014 would be, but it could be a conditional pick designed to replace the conditional 2014 pick the Chiefs gave up for Smith.

DTLB58 03-22-2013 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9520525)
I don't mind this at all. I think that is more than fair. I think we overrate Albert a bit...I think he's solid, don't get me wrong...but he's not a world beater and he is coming off an injury.

I think people need to settle down on this board.
Well, you gotta find someone to give you that much first.

I think, this information makes it less likely a deal will get done if, the Chiefs stand by these demands.

Fritz88 03-22-2013 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9520851)
Why do you care how much he costs? Is it your money?

And so what if they save 5 mill a year. Does that mean they are going to go out and spend it on some high quality player (as if you could get one for that 5mill....)? The Chiefs have a history of that?
Yup, saving 25 millions over five years won't help in signing, re-signing players.

Drop that pipe.
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